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Topic started on 25-7-2010 @ 04:13 PM by Peruvianmonk

Afghanistan war logs: Massive leak of secret files exposes truth of occupation


www.guardian.co.uk
The war logs also detail:

• How a secret "black" unit of special forces hunts down Taliban leaders for "kill or capture" without trial.

• How the US covered up evidence that the Taliban has acquired deadly surface-to-air missiles.

• How the coalition is increasingly using deadly Reaper drones to hunt and kill Taliban targets by remote control from a base in Nevada.

• How the Taliban has caused growing carnage with a massive escalation of its roadside bombing campaign, which has killed more than 2,000 civilians to date.
(visit the link for the full news article)


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reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 04:41 PM by Peruvianmonk
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Hopefully.

For me the only thing controversial about the leak is the information on the deaths of civilians etc, not the actual leak and those(Wikileaks) who leaked it.


reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 04:51 PM by pavil
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk

Afghanistan war logs: Massive leak of secret files exposes truth of occupation


www.guardian.co.uk
The war logs also detail:

• How a secret "black" unit of special forces hunts down Taliban leaders for "kill or capture" without trial.

• How the US covered up evidence that the Taliban has acquired deadly surface-to-air missiles.

• How the coalition is increasingly using deadly Reaper drones to hunt and kill Taliban targets by remote control from a base in Nevada.

• How the Taliban has caused growing carnage with a massive escalation of its roadside bombing campaign, which has killed more than 2,000 civilians to date.
(visit the link for the full news article)





I'm confused.....were supposed to arrest and try the Taliban as we fight them in a war? Personally I just prefer we kill them in engagements.......we are still allowed to fight them aren't we??? Just want to make sure it's acceptable to fire at them.


I also see no problem in killing Taliban with Drones so we don't have to risk coalition troops.


reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 04:57 PM by wcitizen
reply to post by RUDDD49



Quote :• How the coalition is increasingly using deadly Reaper drones to hunt and kill Taliban targets by remote control from a base in Nevada.

Groom Lake? End quote.

9/11?





[edit on 25-7-2010 by wcitizen]



reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 04:59 PM by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by pavil



Well the problem is is that there have been many incidents when these drone strikes have either hit civilians directly or caused collateral damage in the attacking of actual Taliban.

UPDATE 041120D* At 0900 hrs International Media reported that US airstrike had killed 60 civilians in Kunduz.


www.guardian.co.uk...

In regards to these 'black' units, these have also killed many innocent Afghan civilians set up by locals with a grudge.

Shum Khan was a deaf and dumb man who lived in the remote border hamlet of Malekshay, 7,000ft up in the mountains. When a heavily armed squad from the CIA barrelled into his village in March 2007, the war logs record that he "ran at the sight of the approaching coalition forces … out of fear and confusion".

The secret CIA paramilitaries, (the euphemism here is OGA, for "other government agency") shouted at him to stop. Khan could not hear them. He carried on running. So they shot him, saying they were entitled to do so under the carefully graded "escalation of force" provisions of the US rules of engagement.


www.guardian.co.uk...

[edit on 25-7-2010 by Peruvianmonk]


reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 05:09 PM by pavil
reply to post by Peruvianmonk



Civilian casualties are unavoidable in a war such as the one in Afghanistan. I know that sounds harsh, but its the reality of an insurgent/guerilla war. There is no way to 100% be sure you are getting only the bad guys when they mingle with the civilian population. We have been doing better at avoiding such mistakes, but they will happen from time to time.


reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 05:11 PM by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by BBC The1



Yes i noticed there was nothing on the Wikileaks site.

It seems they decided to hand the files to the Guardian and New York Times to publish rather than put their own site at risk.


reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 05:13 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by Peruvianmonk



Nothing new to me. This just means we have a source for it.


reply posted on 25-7-2010 @ 05:13 PM by jjjtir
reply to post by BBC The1



Nothing on the site, but twitter feed did take notice of the simultaneous release by the Guardian, New York Times and Der Spiegel.

twitter.com/wikileaks
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