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Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by The Riley Family
Thank you for clarifying the meaning of the word "hidden", but I'm a little puzzled.
I don't know whether you agree or disagree with my original argument that a self-revealing God would not send messages with concealed meanings.
You quote my comment, but I don't know whether you're approving or disapproving.
Originally posted by DISRAELI
Originally posted by Funkydung
np dis...the monster energy drink isnt ruling the earth but it is part of it....the number 666 is 'hidden" sorta right there in plain sight.
OK, then, who are the owners of the Monster Energy drink?
What company are they part of, which is ruling the earth?
(And if it's ruling the earth, why can't I buy it in England? Is it any good?)
Originally posted by The Riley Family
If you don't believe it is hidden what are you spending your time searching for?
Like we stated if you look into the meaning of the letters they do reveal who the beast, his image, and his name is and that name is substantiated by the fact it adds up to 616 and fits all of the prophecies about it.
Originally posted by DISRAELI
Ah, but my point was that I was not going to join in the search for a hidden meaning.
Instead, I would deliberately focus on trying to identify a more OPEN meaning, an "accessible" one.
Then I provided three examples of possible OPEN meanings;
The meaning "Nero", which would be open in the sense that the early church would not find it obscure.
The meaning "Solomon", which would be open in the sense that it is there in the Old Testament plainly for all to see.
And the meaning "humanity", whch would be open in the sense that this very basic number symbolism would not be very obscure.
You haven't identified this name very clearly, because I have no idea who you've got in mind.
Originally posted by The Riley Family
17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss... ...the beast was, and is not, and shall be present.
Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by Funkydung
All right, then, is it dangerous to drink Monster Energy drink?
If we want to avoid compromising ourselves with the Beast, should we stick to Coca-Cola, or does it make no difference?
I'm trying to work out what the practical implications of this discovery are.
I appreciate the fact that "6" relates to humanity.
But, as I ws suggesting originally, I would argue that 666 does not relate to humanity as such, but only to humanity in the wrong place, ie the place which belongs to God, ie being worshipped. Like most things, mankind is good when kept in the appropriate place, and bad when moved to the wrong place. With that qualification, I accept the association with "man".
I'm afraid I can't allow the arguments linking "MAN" with "RoMANs", because that only works in the English language. The New Testament is a Greek book, it needs to be interpreted with the Greek words. Any word-plays that only work in English are just coincidence.
Originally posted by Funkydung
imo i believe when our creator suggests the number 666 he/she/it is referring to the babylonian system of man. if you and i are in the system we are allowed to buy sell and trade freely (when the time comes) but if we choose to follow christ during this tribulation we will no way follow mans empire because we understand what the number means.
Originally posted by DISRAELI
This leads to the question of what would be meant by "leaving the system" in your approach, and also how much it would be practically possible for most people. If it's going to mean "going into the wilderness", you have to remember that European countries don't actually have much of a wilderness.
Originally posted by The Riley Family
What does the name Jesus add up to in Hebrew?
What do those numbers add up to?
Originally posted by The Riley Family
reply to post by DISRAELI
What does the name Jesus add up to in Hebrew?
the J would be Yod
the e would be niqqud
the s would be shin
the u would be vav
the s would be shin
What do those numbers add up to?
Also what meanings and symbols do 666 have?
vav
samech
tav
resh
[edit on 28-7-2010 by The Riley Family]
Originally posted by micpsi
The number of Jesus (Yehoshua) is 391.