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Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by tim3lord
If you are taking about mistakes that GOD made his first that we know of was with woman. As you put it Adam and Eve, well Eve was not the first Lithe was. She was the first wife of Adam and made from the earth as was Adam.
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by antonia
im sure a supreme being with the capacity to manifest reality has the capabilities to keep its attention on every aspect of the creation. or it wouldnt exist. so im pretty sure the creator knows you and is watching you. or you wouldt exist to post this reply
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by zroth
i understand the concepts you are trying to explain but these are not the traditional christian views. which is what i have contention with. also nothing all knowing can be surprised. its a paradox.
Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by TiM3LoRd
Dear TiM3LoRd
Try doing some studying, Lithe come from the same text as Adam and Eve early Sumerian.
Study then talk.
Originally posted by zroth
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by zroth
i understand the concepts you are trying to explain but these are not the traditional christian views. which is what i have contention with. also nothing all knowing can be surprised. its a paradox.
sure. there is no traditional Christianity without a baseline denomination to discuss. there is catholic, Lutheran, LDS, etc.
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by adjensen
so basically what your saying is "well we Christians kind of take the old testament with a grain of salt. its more of a rough estimation than an actual historic documentation."
problem is you built your house on shaky foundation. if the original story has flaws then all the rest are flawed by definition. if the bible is not a play by play account of what happened as most christians believe it to be then how do you know what is artistic license and whats fact???? this is my fundamental flaw with Christianity. its just not perfect enough for me. if im going to invest my faith in something as big as what i consider god to be it has to be fool proof. divinity is in the details. and if you cant even get the basics right what hope do you have of getting the important things right?
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by zroth
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by zroth
i understand the concepts you are trying to explain but these are not the traditional christian views. which is what i have contention with. also nothing all knowing can be surprised. its a paradox.
sure. there is no traditional Christianity without a baseline denomination to discuss. there is catholic, Lutheran, LD S, etc.
Yes and no. You may discuss Christianity as it is described in the Bible, which is Christianity without doctrinal influences. It does not, of course, exist as an organized religion today, so to put things into context, most people do need to draw in a specific doctrine.
Many Christians, including myself, have a difficult time including Latter Day Saints as a Christian faith, as their beliefs in many area are contrary to Christian teaching. If you have been baptized in the LDS Church and wish to convert to Methodism or Catholicism, for example, you will need to be baptized again, as those churches will not accept the Mormon baptism as a Christian one.
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by zroth
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by zroth
i understand the concepts you are trying to explain but these are not the traditional christian views. which is what i have contention with. also nothing all knowing can be surprised. its a paradox.
sure. there is no traditional Christianity without a baseline denomination to discuss. there is catholic, Lutheran, LD S, etc.
Yes and no. You may discuss Christianity as it is described in the Bible, which is Christianity without doctrinal influences. It does not, of course, exist as an organized religion today, so to put things into context, most people do need to draw in a specific doctrine.
Many Christians, including myself, have a difficult time including Latter Day Saints as a Christian faith, as their beliefs in many area are contrary to Christian teaching. If you have been baptized in the LDS Church and wish to convert to Methodism or Catholicism, for example, you will need to be baptized again, as those churches will not accept the Mormon baptism as a Christian one.
and you dont see the hypocrisy of all this baptizing? do you really think god cares??? really?? its water on your head. why would god care whether if it was done by one priest or another???
Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
reply to post by TiM3LoRd
I've got news for you,'thou shalt not have other Gods before me' specifically suggests there is more than one God,I tend to go with the Roman model as above so below; that they are the same dysfunctional squabbling imperfect types of beings that they preside over.