Jim Marrs is right - the USA gets the best Presidents money can buy!

As a distant observer of the USA, I like a number of other Europeans and people from around the world stood back in both amazement and wonder at the sight of an African American (at least mixed race) being elected to the highest office in the land!

As a young boy I remember watching Roots and thinking how tough people like kunta kinte and Chicken George had to be. I watched Mississippi Burning with tears in my eyes wondering where does that hatred come from.

I along with millions of others saw the election of Barack Obama as a real game changer in USA policies. Out with Bush the pole turtle (Jim Marrs words), in with an articulate refined statesmen able to relate to the rest of the planet. We all breathed a collective sigh of relief.

At last the most powerful military nation on the planet had an intellectual heavyweight in the Whitehouse.

No more dogma, no more “stupid wars” no more dumb mispronunciations (boy did we misunderestimate that).

Two years on and it’s a case of meet the new boss just like the old boss!

Same old belligerence towards other countries notably North Korea and Iran

Same old dubious accusations of wrong doings (e.g questionable Korean Torpoedo’s)

Same old gung-ho posturing (war games off the coast of Korea)

Same old bully boy tactics against Iran (who has never launcheda military offensive against another sovereign state)

Same old continued defence of the school yard bully (Israel) like an over indulgent parent who refuses see the faults in their own child but urges every other parent to punish their children.

The British political system is not perfect - far from it in fact - but fortunately for us, we no longer have the military or the economic might to go around the world with a big stick. And despite what you all the think, the Queen is a constitutional Monarch she has no "executive powers".

Frankly I’m just so glad I don’t live in America I think you guys definitely get the best Presidents money can buy.

Face it people. Your system's rotten to the core! or am I just a simple idealist?

[sarcasm] What, our country is rotten through and through with corruption?

When did that happen? [/sarcasm]


Great post, you summed up the situation here very well.

When Obama was elected, I was disappointed that we had a socialist in office but, at least I consoled myself that he and the Dems would get us out of those stupid wars.

Even that hope proved to be wrong.

The only change we got was that the accelerator was pushed all the way to the floor on our way to the edge of that cliff.

Best?

The only "game" Obama "changed" is which of the two warring PTB puppetmaster subfactions has the serve and the balance of power at the moment...out with the PNAC/neocon/Zionists and in with the CFR.

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It's all the same #'in hydra, buddy. Exxon and BP takeover, just to name a recent notable.

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I guess we all swallowed that talk about change you can believe in.
I just don’t understand why we (the electorate) fall for those stupid electioneering catch phrases all the time.

I like to think that I am not swayed by catch phrases or clever marketing ploys but dammit, every election the propagandist come up with a catch phrase and the sheeple just lap it up –

yes we can,

it’s the economy stupid,

Read my lips - no new taxes,

Its morning again in America...


If we could get someone to tell it like it is ...

they’d probably not get elected.

I watched the last american election with much joy, thinking that Yes We Can changes things. After almost two years in office, he only proved that his allegiance is to money first... no wonder some people called him watermelon head...

It the system that is corrupted to the core. Everywhere.

I live in Quebec and our provincial government is acting like crazy (Marc Bellemare affair, construction scandal, and more), but unlike the US, we have no impeachment possible, and our people are completely sleeping on gas.

Politics is ruled by money, not people.

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No we all didn't. Many of us were warning people that there was no difference between the two parties and have been doing so for at least the last three elections (some longer). We mostly got laughed at though.

We had someone to tell it like it is...Ron Paul. Not perfect, but the closest we've gotten.

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I recently posted in another thread that I have just finished Jim Marrs "The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy". Without a doubt, Jim always tells it like it is.

I'm an Australian and the first 50 pages will scare the s**t out of you.

I'm afraid the OP is bang on, and America is heading for some deep trouble, it has to with these neocons running the show.

I say again, get the troops out, cut the defence budget, and get back on track, othwise the once great nation is doomed by TPTB.

The WHOLE problem in my view is that the people are scared little children.

The people have to have the government run certain aspects of their lives. The Dem head of the hydra promises education and health safety. The Repub head of the hydra promises security and economic growth.

Both factions of the two headed hydra use fear to enslave us to the totalitarian state.

Wake up folks, the government cannot and will not protect you. We need to take responsibilities for our own lives.

And please, do not make this into a leftists rightists discussion.

Tell me, when all of the power and freedoms have been removed to secure you from your fears, what exactly does our government then represent?

To me, a dictatorship. And do not tell me that electing someone different is going to make one iota of difference. When was the last time the government gave up any power? I am thinking 1776 when we took it from good ol Georgey.

*Snore* Another non-US citizen taking time out of his busy schedule to point out the failings of the US. Like this doesn't go on weekly here on ATS. Some people need hobbies. Or a real life.

Originally posted by se25watcher
Frankly I’m just so glad I don’t live in America I think you guys definitely get the best Presidents money can buy.

I'm glad you don't live here, too. And thanks for pointing out what 99% of US citizens already know.

Originally posted by se25watcher
Face it people. Your system's rotten to the core! or am I just a simple idealist?

Our system has problems, but I'd rather work with it than any other.

The problem in my opinion is entrenched special interests, a public that doesn't care beyond who's winning the most votes on American Idol, and the fact that any politician who's elected has to spend nearly every single day of his career looking to fund his next reelection. There's just so much corrupt money floating around nothing good can come of it. Our country was bought out many years before I was born. As much as I hate to admit it, Obama's owned by the same people who owned Bush and will probably own the next guy.

Right, but stop talking and DO something. Analyze the root causes and and get some REAL solutions out there for discussion without using the stupid freaking labels. People feel powerless to change a thing. Tell them what they can DO. Never a more perfect time for a REAL leader to emerge. Problem is we're stuck in that stupid two-party, two-idealogy clusterflock of a paradigm.

Waitin for a leader to step forward is just plain silly at this point. With the two party system, the balance of power just swings back and forth and nothing ever changes, its all just the same partisan mumbo jumbo. Half of the things the "Right" has called Obama out for doing is the exact same thing I used to rant and rave about Bush doing.

Bottom line, we're being played.

The pubs and the dems have such a hold on this country's government it's pretty much impossible for a "real" leader to emerge. I have no idea how we can reclaim this country, but it's clear there are some shady people behind the curtains.

Originally posted by se25watcher
Frankly I’m just so glad I don’t live in America I think you guys definitely get the best Presidents money can buy.

If thats true can I get my change back

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We have a one-party system currently in a tug of war between two puppetmasters. It's an illusion that that balance of power swings anywhere withing that system.