Another Potential False Flag!!! Seoul Questions U.S. version of Submarine Attack

reply to post by NuclearPaul


I could not agree with your statement more. People are finally waking up.

reply to post by Master Shen long


I am in agreement with you as well. There have been too many of these false operations and there have been far too many times that our country has fallen for it. I'm glad to see that others are starting to smell the roses that have been dangling in front of them for awhile.

Namaste and Love

reply to post by squiz


Nice post!!! Very Nice. Its good to have that information.



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reply to post by Danbones

Very good line of questioning there. Not bad. I will give it some thought.

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Originally posted by Judohawk
I agree, people talk about the US like it's our fault(as in the people) this crap is happening in the world. It's clear that someone, or something is running the show and we're being forced along by the puppets in power.

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Yep, lets hope that eventually, fellow Americans will decide to quit allowing our politicians to ruin our good names.

Remember, less than a couple of million of people run the world for 6.5 billion. Technically, we could change this anytime we choose.

Namaste and Love

S&F.. hopefully this doesn't get buried. The anti-NK propoganda is pretty dense right now and sheep will follow sheep as they always have. Very glad to see more people are questioning events like this instead of immediately joining the witchhunt like everyone did in Iraq.

reply to post by astrogolf


Get out of here with your left right paradigm nonsense. Some of us are getting pretty sick and tired of it. They're both the same ol same ol and Obama is nowhere near being a communist, he's far from it. Technically no one on this planet knows what a true communist is because no country has ever seen communism in it's truest form. Russia and the whole eastern bloc wasn't communism, there was no equality. Same goes for Cuba.

Originally posted by Balkan
S&F.. hopefully this doesn't get buried. The anti-NK propoganda is pretty dense right now and sheep will follow sheep as they always have. Very glad to see more people are questioning events like this instead of immediately joining the witchhunt like everyone did in Iraq.

Unfortunately, it looks like it is already being buried. Not too many replies or interest.

Namaste and Love

reply to post by PsychoX42


Well stated, star from me.

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I don’t think the US wants any parts of a war with North Korea, less it be one of their fake wars.
The US army can’t even beat a ragtag group of religious nuts in Afghanistan who have little open international backing, like for example North Vietnam did with China and Russia behind them.

North Korea, notwithstanding the US nuclear weapons, would likely wallop the US in a war and it would end up a long war.

That would be a 3 front war for the US.

Though such a thing, war with North Korea, might save the economy, so you never know what might happen with the maniacs who rule this world.
Maniacs like Obama and Hillary Clinton, and the North and South Korean governments.

Wait a second! I'm confused. I thought it was Bin Laden that sunk that South Korean boat....

reply to post by conspiracy88


"Get out of here with your left right paradigm nonsense. Some of us are getting pretty sick and tired of it. They're both the same ol same ol and Obama is nowhere near being a communist, he's far from it. Technically no one on this planet knows what a true communist is because no country has ever seen communism in it's truest form. Russia and the whole eastern bloc wasn't communism, there was no equality. Same goes for Cuba. "

Wow....By "some of us", do you mean you and you're invisible friend? I say that because most of the posts on your thread seem to always come from you, as if you're having a discussion with yourself. If you aren't able to pick up on the fact that, as stated in the story you referenced, the determination that North Korea (a communist country) was responsible for the attack on their submarine, you seem to be making up your own news. As for Obama, he has stated repeatedly that he is a progressive, which, according to their own literature published around the very inception of the movement (early 1900's) is a rebranded version of communism. The word communism comes from the term communal living, and at it's core is the redistribution of wealth. From each according to his means, to each according to his needs. That is why obama, in his own words, advocates redistribution of wealth. You'll remember that this made Joe the Plumber famous. It also explains why no fewer than 15 of his "czars" are avowed marxists (that's communist to you).
Also at the core of the progressive movements was something called eugenics. Basically, if you can't justify your existence via some contribution to the "community", they kill you. For example, if a guy's only claim to fame were making up fake news stories that served no purpose, they may kill him, as so not to have to support him. In some cases, modern conservatives like me can see where eugenics may be beneficial, for example, about half of the citizens in this country pay not tax, and consistently vote for those who promise to redistribute the wealth of others to them via welfare, food-stamps, flat out bribes (like the "earned" income tax credit) and other free government cheese. This might be an excellent place to start these "eugenics."
As for no communist countries ever having existed, have you ever heard of the USSR, China, North Vietnam, North Korea......................and on and on and on? I could do this all day. The fact that they had no equality is communism by design. Perhaps it should tell you something that there has never been a "happy and functional" communist country. You have a ruling class, and "the people." Unfortunately, in the case of communism the people are suckers. Remeber, equal and fair are seldom the same thing. Take me, and the thirty year-old guy at waffle house that cooked my breakfast this morning. Are we equal? In a sense we are. He has the same opportunity as I did....to work my way through college, bust my butt, be responsible, stay out of jail, take care of my family, learn about my industry, become an asset by providing marketable retirement solutions that change the outcome for my clients, and thereby make a great living. Are we economically equal? No. I suspect he made (so far) a much poorer set of choices, that landed him at the waffle house. Is that fair. You bet. Life is what you make it. It's up to you. And it isn't my responsibility to bail him out of his poor choices (perhaps jail, drugs, drop out, illegitimate kids he can't support and keep being able to afford college).
In short, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Oh well, best you get back to adding replies to your own post. I have to go create global warming and exploit poor folks by getting in my big honkin' V8 powered Mustang GT and take my wife to dinner, where I'll probably eat a 16 oz. filet with the profits I made on the backs of unsuspecting investors. Might as well eat before Obama nationalizes the restaurants. Ice down those marbles and have a nice day.
PS Here's an educational video for you.www.youtube.com...



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reply to post by astrogolf


Obviously you're not really familiar with Marxism. Marxism was meant to be the endgame where the proletariat (i.e. you and me) are the one's with the power and control, not a formalized government. The person that you responded to is aware of this, and now, so are you.

What Obama is proposing is more like fascism where the government still has outright control and wealth is redistributed to the state and the wealthy. Since he has been in office, a greater disparity exists between the rich and the poor. This isn't communism, this is totalitarianism. Learn to distinguish the two.

Namaste and Love

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reply to post by PsychoX42


Mind if I jump in?

I suppose Obama would best be described as 'corporatism' (aka fascism)as he utilizes corporate subsidies and the tax code to get selected corporations (like big pharma, GM, and telecoms) to support his unconstitutional dictates.

But in the end, is there really a difference between fascism and Marxism?

They are both collectivist ideologies that treat individuals as a means to an end.

socialism = bureaucrats control the capital
fascism = bureaucrats control the capitalists

Even tru, agrarian Marxism runs into the problem of "who decides?" what you'll inevitably end up with is a gang of thugs with all the guns telling everyone else what to do (Animal Farm). At least in capitalism you can choose your master.

reply to post by Gnome DeGuerre


Well if you're talking about modern day capitalism, then no, you can't choose your master because its indistinguishable from fascism. If we are referring to capitalism 50 years ago, then, your chances are much better.

Either way, I agree with the rest of your analysis.

[edit on 25-7-2010 by PsychoX42]

Im glad that more and more people are starting to see the truth about the DPRK,the reason why the country gets so much slander is because its the last stronghold of socialism so naturally the US imperialists and its lackeys have demonized it.

But they wont stop their,USA wants control over the asian region,it already occupied SK 60 years ago and its had its beady eyes on the north ever since, Songun theory has been the bulwark of korean socialism and may soon have to be put to the test.

I have followed the korean situation for a few years,im familiar with the Juche philosophy and the korean mentality,i also read KCNA (korean central news agency) frequently and although US-SK have held military drills in the past and the DPRK has always protested,this is the closest to war ive known it in the past few years.

I dont recall in recent years the DPRK threatening nuclear retaliatory war in response to military drills,i really think the US is pushing it too far this time but maybe thats the whole point,they have been looking for a reason to invade for many years,they sunk the ship and immediately pinned the blame on the DPRK to start in motion a plan for invasion,except they want the DPRK to make the first move to justify it.

Today KCNA reports that Korea is once again threatening war for the exercises and made a note that it has never made empty talk,i only hope that either the US puts an end to the war exercises or the DPRK shows restraint.

The US will have a nasty surprise if it thinks it can waltz into the DPRK for an easy ride.The DPRK leadership and political system is stronger than any nation,its army invincible,and the peoples revolutionary spirit to defend the motherland at all cost unwavering.