It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

page: 2
0
<< 1   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 11:17 AM
link   
That works until the HIV virus mutates and can no longer by the cure. The HIV viruses themselves are not killed. That brings us to another problem: how can the cure be so diverse that it can recognise all the different mistakes that lead to cancer and all the varieties of HIV? That would it very complicated.

I still think it would work by using the immune system if it really works. Maybe a mix of all known by the immune system recognizable membrane proteins can help the immune system fight these diseases?




posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 11:32 AM
link   
[edit on 20-10-2004 by antipigopolist]



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 11:37 AM
link   
-snif- -snif- hmmm... I smell Internet Scam in the making... anyone else?



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 11:41 AM
link   
Now you say it Skeptic.....Has nobody ever heard of this "11 year old genius" before? Plus, wouldn't this be big news?



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 11:41 AM
link   

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I smell Internet Scam in the making... anyone else?


I previously predicted chain letter from the kid's plea to "please forward to anyone in the medical field" but drew the line at calling it a scam given my recent history.


But yes, we may well see calls for funding soon with promises of exponential returns.


But I'm trying to not be so negative.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 12:20 PM
link   
[edit on 20-10-2004 by antipigopolist]



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 12:35 PM
link   
Amantine,

Agreed this supposeded cure would only correct the DNA damaged by the HIV virus not the HIV itself. This would lead to the HIV being left alone to do what it pleases. But if the DNA is corrected wouldn't that also destroy HIV's abiltiy to reproduce and thus any chance at mutations?

I really tend to agree with most however that this is just too good to be true and you know what they say about too good to be true.

I have a feeling this will be on snopes.com next year.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 12:37 PM
link   
Yes we shouldn't be too quick to turn our noses up.

I think many here are still boiling over the Ausie Bloke case.

In my opinion the AB really did a number on this site and many other groups who investigate the improbable.

Remember, these things are what make for good conspiracies. And isn't that what we are here for.

Good call on keeping the thread up.


Nutzo



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 02:52 PM
link   
IQ SURPASSING EINSTEIN! OH MY GOD!

That's like, really easy to do!

Yeah, my IQ surpasses Einstein's, a lot of people's does. He was rated as an adult to have an IQ of approximately 136, an 11 year old in the 160 range on an adult-test could be said to have a potential of low-mid 200's, safely one of the smartest on earth, but the Einstein & Edison thing is just a pointless attention grab.

An 11 year old with a questionable IQ test result who teaches Class XII students is just now being considered for being put past Class V? You mean when he was performing surgery at 7 they didn't at least bump him up a grade? Wow, competition must be high there, if it takes a cancer cure to get bumped up a grade, then that place is like hell!

Smelled like a scam, hemmed and hawed like a hoax - from the very start.

The day he implements it and we see hard test results, I'll care.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 04:44 PM
link   

Originally posted by Viendin
IQ SURPASSING EINSTEIN! OH MY GOD!

That's like, really easy to do!

Yeah, my IQ surpasses Einstein's, a lot of people's does. He was rated as an adult to have an IQ of approximately 136.


Yeah, that is really easy to do. Half my math/science class is rated above that. But then again, my class is really exceptional. We're the best class in math and science of the Netherlands in the contests that are held each year.

Anyway, it's always good to remember that IQ aren't very reliable and you can be trained to make them better.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 09:47 PM
link   
Seems to me like another Indian family screwing around with us. When we do find a cure, and it is done, I will believe it. But right now it is simply giving people false hope.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 02:45 PM
link   
This was on TV news in Oz just a few days ago and is being taken seriously.

To understand what the boy is saying you must first understand cancer (and AIDS).

1. All cancers are trophoblastic in nature, ie the tumour grows the same way pregnancy cells grow but without the contolling hormones etc to say when the growth is complete, as in pregnancy producing a baby. Simplistically it is an overgrowth of 'healing'.

2. There is NO evidence to support HIV developing into full blown AIDS, that is a medical myth perpetuated by the medical mafia. In fact the so called HIV virus has never been seen. Do the research at Dr Mercola's website www.mercola.com... Also read some of Dr Len Horowitz' books www.tetrahedron.org...

3. Cancer is not caused by DNA. Cancer is caused mainly from a deficient immune system, and it's curable. DNA is genetic and cancers are not normally caused by genetic factors.

When this child talks about cytotoxins it sounds very much like a product based on Laetrile/Amygdalin found in apricot kernels and first discovered by the Hunza Valley people of Pakistan, (at least the benefit of the apricots were), the Laetrile (Vit.B17) was developed by Dr. Ernst T. Krebs.

4. Patents cannot be taken out on NATURAL products, hence the drug companies suppression of natural therapies. To patent a product it has to be something NEW and able to be 'manufactured', so in order to take out a patent on a product is must be classified as a man produced 'drug'.... "but a drug can (and often does) contain natural products". The corporates way of keeping control of all readily available treatments.



posted on Jun, 19 2004 @ 12:33 AM
link   
[edit on 20-10-2004 by antipigopolist]



posted on Jun, 19 2004 @ 03:36 AM
link   

2. There is NO evidence to support HIV developing into full blown AIDS, that is a medical myth perpetuated by the medical mafia. In fact the so called HIV virus has never been seen. Do the research at Dr Mercola's website www.mercola.com... Also read some of Dr Len Horowitz' books www.tetrahedron.org...


From this site with references to scientific articles and longer explanations of the different points I quote the following list:




  • HIV fulfills Koch's postulates as the cause of AIDS.
  • AIDS and HIV infection are invariably linked in time, place and population group.
  • Many studies agree that only a single factor, HIV, predicts whether a person will develop AIDS.
  • In cohort studies, severe immunosuppression and AIDS-defining illnesses occur almost exclusively in individuals who are HIV-infected.
  • Before the appearance of HIV, AIDS-related diseases such as PCP, KS and MAC were rare in developed countries; today, they are common in HIV-infected individuals.
  • In developing countries, patterns of both rare and endemic diseases have changed dramatically as HIV has spread, with a far greater toll now being exacted among the young and middle-aged, including well-educated members of the middle class.
  • In studies conducted in both developing and developed countries, death rates are markedly higher among HIV-seropositive individuals than among HIV-seronegative individuals.
  • HIV can be detected in virtually everyone with AIDS.
  • Numerous studies of HIV-infected people have shown that high levels of infectious HIV, viral antigens, and HIV nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) in the body predict immune system deterioration and an increased risk for developing AIDS. Conversely, patients with low levels of virus have a much lower risk of developing AIDS.
  • The availability of potent combinations of drugs that specifically block HIV replication has dramatically improved the prognosis for HIV-infected individuals. Such an effect would not be seen if HIV did not have a central role in causing AIDS.
  • Among HIV-infected patients who receive anti-HIV therapy, those whose viral loads are driven to low levels are much less likely to develop AIDS or die than patients who do not respond to therapy. Such an effect would not be seen if HIV did not have a central role in causing AIDS.
  • Nearly everyone with AIDS has antibodies to HIV.
  • Numerous serosurveys show that AIDS is common in populations where many individuals have HIV antibodies. Conversely, in populations with low seroprevalence of HIV antibodies, AIDS is extremely rare.
  • The specific immunologic profile that typifies AIDS - a persistently low CD4+ T-cell count - is extraordinarily rare in the absence of HIV infection or other known cause of immunosuppression.
  • Newborn infants have no behavioral risk factors for AIDS, yet many children born to HIV-infected mothers have developed AIDS and died.
  • The HIV-infected twin develops AIDS while the uninfected twin does not.
  • Studies of transfusion-acquired AIDS cases have repeatedly led to the discovery of HIV in the patient as well as in the blood donor.
  • HIV is similar in genetic structure and morphology to other lentiviruses that often cause immunodeficiency in their animal hosts in addition to slow, progressive wasting disorders, neurodegeneration and death.
  • HIV causes the death and dysfunction of CD4+ T lymphocytes in vitro and in vivo.



posted on Jun, 19 2004 @ 03:43 AM
link   

Originally posted by KillerD
That kid is amazing
Hopefully he can get the schooling that he needs in India and remain alive.


One in 2 billion, which is the population of India in a few years. What are the odds of that. Like 100 percent that a genius would be born. I would place my odds in that rather than invest in the Ontario lottery.

[edit on 19-6-2004 by websurfer]



posted on Jun, 20 2004 @ 06:41 AM
link   
Well it just says "treat" not cure. I can treat your headache, but you may still have a headache when I am done. Having said that my mom died two weeks ago of lung cancer so If I find anyone has held back information that might have saved her then they might want to find a way to treat a beating..

Just a point I wanted to make. I imagine several thousands of cancer and HIV patients have died since this news first was reported.

The may be a boy genius but i doubt he has cured cancer or even the common cold.

[edit on 20-6-2004 by Xeven]


d1k

posted on Jun, 20 2004 @ 06:48 AM
link   
Has this been in any main stream news sources yet? Not that that really matters but I hope word gets out about this young man and his claims.



posted on Jun, 27 2004 @ 10:43 PM
link   

Originally posted by JAK
I don't mean to jump on this before it gets a chance to realise it's full potential but I am quite skeptical about what this child will actually go on to achieve. I seem to recall others also bearing the label 'Child Prodgy' who, although going on to do well in their field, do not to achieve the prospects suggested when they were younger.

After all, a quote from my fave film - "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..."


Ahhh...PI, such a good movie. If any of you haven't seen it, I highly recommend you view it, it will really open up your mind.



new topics

top topics



 
0
<< 1   >>

log in

join