so was healthcare once upon a time and november is a long way away and so is 2012 if you really think its dead think agian.

Like all the other massive bills passed by the Democrats in the past 18 moths, it was a bad bill and had little to do with what they said it was going to do. They simply wanted the carbon tax so they could continue to spend trillions on their brave new world.

If the Obama Administration and Reid and Pelosi were really serious about reducing emissions, they should have made the GM and Chrysler bail-outs conditional and required them to only produce electric and hybrid vehicles by the end of two years with the same requirement on all the other motor vehicle companies by the end of five years.

That is really the one thing that would actually work at a huge reduction of emissions.

They could still do it now and it would likely get vast support.

Then they could move on to doing something about how we generate electricity and our power grids.

No doubt, this shortened version also has billions in earmarks just as all their bills have.

We can only hope that Reid will be out of there at the end of the year.