The 'Up to the Minute' Live Tropical Storm Bonnie and Oil Spill Thread

The 'Up to the Minute' Live Tropical Storm Bonnie and Oil Spill Thread

www.abovetopsecret.com

With so many threads popping up in regards to the recently formed Tropical Depression #3, there should be one thread that brings the Hurricane people, and the Oil spill people together for in-depth tracking of the storm and the consequences of the oil spill in relation to it.

The ATS Hurricane Watch 2010 thread is here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And the The "Up to the Minute" BP Livefeed Discussion Thread is here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 22-7-2010 by lasertaglover]
[Mod edit for Headline typo^2]



[edit on 7/22/2010 by yeahright]

[edit on 7/22/10 by GENERAL EYES]

NOAA Storm Tracker Home Page (good source for Atlantic basin photos and videos):

www.stormtracker.noaa.gov...

Link to external image of Tropical Storm Bonnie trajectory as of 7/22/10 from the 2pm update from the NHC:
Provided by Phage

www.nhc.noaa.gov...

Article about a Tech scientist's views on the Oil Spill:
Provided by SeesFar

lubbockonline.com...

Picture of Oil in the Gulf Stream:
Provided by DragonFire1024

upload.wikimedia.org...

Hurricane Tracking site:

www.stormpulse.com...

The National Hurricane Center site:

www.nhc.noaa.gov...

The Weather Channel Hurricane Center site:

www.weather.com...


BP Oil Spill ROV Sites:

www.searchlawrence.com...

www.sanaracreations.fi...

morpheastruth.webs.com...


The Deepwater Horizon Unified Commande Center site:

www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[Mod edit for typo]

[edit on 7/22/2010 by yeahright]

[edit on 22-7-2010 by lasertaglover]

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An excerpt from the Weather Channel Hurricane Desk:

Tropical depression forms in the Bahamas
Roy Lucksinger, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel
Jul. 22, 2010 11:34 am ET
A tropical depression has developed near the southern Bahamas. Movement is to the west northwest at 15 mph.

A tropical storm warning is in effect for the Florida east coast from Golden Beach southward to the Florida Keys, and for the Florida west coast northward to Bonita Beach. The central and northwestern Bahamas are also under a tropical storm warning.

A tropical storm watch has been issued for the Florida east coast from Jupiter Inlet to Golden Beach, including Lake Okeechobee.

Tropical storm conditions are expected over the central and northwest Bahamas tonight and Friday. South Florida and the Keys should experience heavy rain and gusty winds on Friday. Rainfall amounts could exceed 5 inches in parts of southern Florida and the Bahamas.

Impacts on the oil spill in the northern Gulf of Mexico could begin Friday night and should reach their peak Saturday through early Sunday.


www.weather.com...

Excerpt from Associated Press reported on Yahoo:

Tropical depression races toward BP's leaky well

AP – Vessels gather at the Deepwater Horizon oil spill site over the Gulf of Mexico, off the Louisiana coast, …
By HARRY WEBER and COLLEEN LONG, Associated Press Writers Harry Weber And Colleen Long, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 1 min ago
ON THE GULF OF MEXICO – A tropical depression racing toward the Gulf of Mexico Thursday increased pressure on BP and the U.S. government to decide whether to evacuate dozens of ships at the site of the ruptured oil well.

The National Hurricane Center in Miami said a cluster of thunderstorms in the Bahamas formed into a tropical depression Thursday morning. It could reach the spill site within two and a half days, said Lexion Avila, a senior hurricane specialist.

Seas already were choppy in the Gulf, with waves up to five feet rocking boats as crews waited for orders on whether to leave. Nonessential vessels like barges and skimmers will likely be sent back to shore, Commander Terri Jordan told the crew of the Coast Guard cutter Decisive at a midmorning briefing.

She said they were awaiting an evacuation order for key vessels.

Work on plugging the well is at a standstill just days before the expected completion of a relief tunnel to permanently throttle the free-flowing crude.

Worse yet, the government's spill chief said foul weather could require reopening the cap that has contained the oil for nearly a week, allowing oil to gush into the sea again for days while engineers wait out the storm.


news.yahoo.com...

And gosh darn it...in trying to get all of the links here for everyone...I rushed in the darn spelling of the thread....rrrr..hating myself here...it is Bonnie...not Boonie...OMG!

Yeah Mods! Thank you for somehow correcting my idiocy.

Deny Ignorance

[edit on 22-7-2010 by lasertaglover]

The latest from overseas from the BBC:

22 July 2010 Last updated at 11:58 ET Share this pageTwitter ShareEmail Print Tropical storm warning for site of BP oil spill
A tropical cyclone is likely to form BP workers in the Gulf of Mexico have stopped drilling a relief well and are preparing to evacuate the oil spill site as a tropical depression nears.

There is a 20-30% chance of tropical storm force winds (39mph/63kph or more) at the spill site by Tuesday, the National Hurricane Center says.

Because of the slow-moving vessels at the spill site, evacuation plans are already well under way.

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Work on the relief well could be suspended for up to two weeks.

A "packer" - a plug used during storms - has been placed in the relief well to stabilise it.

The government's incident commander, Thad Allen, along with BP, must decide whether to leave the well shut during any storm, or to open it and allow oil to gush out into the sea.

The tropical depression is over the Bahamas but is travelling west-northwest at 15mph. It could become a tropical storm later day. Storm warnings are in force in the Bahamas and on much of the Florida coastline.

A reconnaissance flight is being sent to investigate the depression. There is a 5-10% chance that winds at the spill site could reach 58mph or more (93kph).

Shell Oil has already begun to evacuate employees stationed out in the Gulf.

A US Coast Guard ship, the Decisive, is heading to the spill site. "It's a controlled chaos out there," Lt Patrick Montgomery told the Associated Press news.

The BP well is currently closed for an integrity test to see if there are weaknesses in the well or ruptures in the sea bed. The test was conditional on close seismic, acoustic and visual monitoring - all of which would have to stop during the evacuation as ships and remote-operated vehicles moved out of the potential path of the storm.

The first relief well is only 4ft from the damaged well horizontally, but more work needs to be done before it can be used for a "kill" to stop the flow permanently.

A final piece of casing needs to be cemented in place at the bottom of the relief well.

Once the weather improves, a "static" kill - pumping mud into the top of the well through the new cap - could be done as an intermediate measure. BP and government experts are deciding whether this will take place.


www.bbc.co.uk...

Will this mean no ROV activity while vessels are sent away?

Dont like the idea of the cap getting taken off after a week and straight away there will be no way to monitor the BOP or the seafloor.

Will the storm affect the current so far under the surface?



[edit on 22/7/10 by niblo]

reply to post by niblo


There is a lot of information that we do not know. However, one of the things that are easier at guessing at include oil mixing with the storm surge, which is definitely not good.

I hope the ROV's stay on the site. Does anyone have more information regarding that? I'll look myself, but there are some BP Internet sleuths here on ATS that are amazing at what they can find.

And while I do not think that the storm will affect things at the greatest depths, I would imagine that the oil plumes that are closer to the surface might either disperse the oil better, or it possibly might just come closer to the surface, which could again affect the storm surge.

Aye it seems all the oil and everthing else on the surface and round about would get swept inland, as if they dont have it tough enough around there.

reply to post by niblo


One of the things that is really important is the water temperature. The warmer the water, the more powerful that #3 (Bonnie) could become.

Current water temp readings indicate that there is a lot of warmth in the Gulf right now, but that is the case for this time of the year and the reason that August is the peak month for tropical storms. The water is at its warmest.

There has been speculation on some of the BP threads that the oil might actually cause the water to be slightly warmer, but I am not an expert, and I am not sure if that hypothesis has been proven, or disproven in any way.

Since the storm will be passing near Florida, or possibly even over the Keys or the southern tip, here are the current water temps for Florida:

Blackwater Sound, FL 83.7
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Little Blackwater, FL 84.2
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Long Sound, FL 84.0
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Highway Creek, FL 84.0
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Duck Key, FL 83.7
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Trout Cove, FL 82.9
(07/22/2010 14:00 UTC)
Butternut Key, FL 83.3
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Little Madeira, FL 84.2
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Taylor River, FL 85.8
(07/22/2010 14:00 UTC)
Bob Allen, FL 82.6
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Whipray Basin, FL 82.4
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Garfield Bight, FL 83.7
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Peterson Key, FL 84.0
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Little Rabbit Key, FL 84.2
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Johnson Key, FL 82.0
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Murray Key, FL 84.9
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Tarpon Bay East, FL 84.2
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Cane Patch, FL 84.0
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Gunboat Island, FL 86.0
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Broad River Lower, FL 85.6
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Lostmans River, FL 85.6
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Willy Willy, FL 83.3
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Cannon Bay, FL 86.9
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Watson Place, FL 86.5
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)
Broad River, FL 85.3
(07/22/2010 15:00 UTC)

www.nodc.noaa.gov...

[edit on 22-7-2010 by lasertaglover]

Thank you OP for the update and links. Definitely weather to keep an eye on and great concern for those in its path and the gulf spill. I checked stormpulse a couple of hours ago and then came here. Your title quoting hurricane "Bonnie" just about made me fall out of my seat. I was thinking how could it have become a hurricane so quickly. I think you might want to change your title for now, not a hurricane - yet.

Most likely BP is moving out of the way already. I doubt that we will have Rov feeds to keep an eye on whats going on down there. Actually they are on CNN right now talking about it. Gonna take a listen.

reply to post by crazydaisy


Thank you.

I did think about calling this thread Storm #3 or Hurricane Bonnie is coming, but I thought that with everything else going on, there are probably going to be tons of threads being made, just for every increase of strength by this storm.

Why not cut to the chase, and call it like how it is going to be...Hurricane Bonnie. With its current path of sucking up warm water in the Gulf, it is the direction that she is headed.

BTW, if you have you, or anyone else has some good storm links, please post them on here. I am just trying to consolidate information for everyone to be able to find information quickly.

Knowledge is power, and I think the people of the Gulf are going to need as much knowledge as possible.

reply to post by crazydaisy


Please let us know what CNN is saying. The ROV feeds are really going to be more important than ever if the storm passes overhead. Thank you

I second CrazyDaisy on this one and thanks for all of the informative links OP - so much easier to keep a track on events as and when they'll happen. Keep up the good work! Who needs MSM when you can come to ATS and find all of the worlds news under one url.

reply to post by smash_the_system


And thank you. The more actual information that any of us can post, the better. And even at the beginning of this storm, it was really starting to get hard keeping up with all of the different threads.

Great links OP but you could maybe add this ROV feed, same as the others but slightly larger screens:

morpheastruth.webs.com...

reply to post by StarTraveller


Great link and I did just edit and added it up top. My eyes thank you very much, as they will not have to squint as much.

DO you know if the ROV's are going to keep running during the storm?

Please do let me know if there are any other good Hurricane or Oil Links that I can add, to make it easier for people to cover all apsects of #3/Bonnie.

Or any other relevant ATS thread as well. I would be happy to add more links to help everyone keep track of this storm and the oil.

[edit on 22-7-2010 by lasertaglover]

The current forecasted track: www.nhc.noaa.gov...

Will that track cause more oil storm surge, or less based on the rotation of a tropical storm.hurricane?