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This is a freaking war! Against GB, the right and FOX

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posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 04:17 PM

Originally posted by WolfofWar
reply to post by Harry Balsik

I doubt that's the case. If Glenn Beck can go on the air and say that the President is a racist and hates white people I'm sure somebody like Brietbart can investigate Glenn Becks alleged rape and murder of a girl in 1990.

MSM isn't hiding the fact GB raped and murdered a girl; they aren't reporting it because it is a lie.

The man who started the lie on a website admitted it, he still runs it though for the ad revenue. claims to be the official website about the controversy. The website ultimately denies the allegations against Beck, but admits they have no proof of his innocence.

Here is more insight to the story:

Trust me I am not a Glen Beck fan, but if you want anyone to take what you say seriously, you should actually research some of the crap you believe.

If he raped and murdered a girl in 1990, he would have been at least investigated; but he wasn't because the girl never existed.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 04:21 PM
reply to post by Libertygal

Oh really? You might want to take a peek HERE and see what you think. Get back to us.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 04:28 PM
reply to post by Misoir

Keep it mind it's not just beck. It's limbough and hannity as well. Both are obviously the publicity arm of the republican reich. I can't understand why anyone would believe a word any of these three liars would say.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 04:43 PM
Network news is becoming more and more irrelevant.

The reason Faux news enjoys hi ratings is because most of the people who watch are illiterate, and don't know how to use a computer.

The liberals and moderates are tuning out, because they can find far better news sources on the internet.

It seems that the Obama admin needs to get a lot more internet savvy.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 04:52 PM
Well guys the way is see it, Beck and the rest of the FOX, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC are all controled to one extent or another.

I don't have to watch them to tell me how or what I should be thinking. The Adminastration Acted in haste and Fired a good person in my opinion. Although I may be Labled a Right Wing Extremest, I beleive we all have a right to our opinions. I have noticed some of the left leaning post have been removed as well as the Right leaning ones, We should try to keep it civil on here. After all Most of us are Americans here.

This is what TPTB want. More Division. United we Stand Divided we fall.

We are Falling and we are Falling fast.

I haven't seen anyone offer any solutions here only complain about the problems.

We need to rise above this and realize that a mistake has been made and a wrong needs to be made right.

Just a quick question for the left: Do you guys really think we would be better off if Government controled everything?

The larger the Government is the more they have to tax us all. The IRS don't care what your view is they will steal your money just the same as the other guy.

Wake Up!

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Harry Balsik
reply to post by ProjectJimmy

So wait you're saying that the Glenn Beck would sue media outlets for just asking questions? Isn't that just the kind of thing that Mr. Beck does on his own show though?

He "asks questions" he "promotes theories" he isn't saying anything concrete except that he loves his country and thinks the United States is in trouble. Why should any other journalist be sued by Mr. Beck for doing exactly what he is doing himself?

Well I suggest someone sue him then. I doubt he can be proved to be wrong, since he uses the very peoples own words to make his case that they are Marxists.

Do you really think Van Jones isnt a Marxist, racist radical?

Do you really think Obama isnt a Socialist, at a minimum, who wants to redistribute wealth?

[edit on 22-7-2010 by Harry Balsik]

No I really do not think President Obama is a socialist, at least not a good one. I am a socialist and I will tell you, he's a capitalist, a liberal one but a capitalist. I think actually if your country was to embrace socialism, you would be better off, but what President Obama is doing is not socialism, it's a hell of a lot better than what President W. Bush did though, that's for sure.

If President Obama is trying to redistribute wealth, he's doing a horrible job of it.

As for Van Jones, what did he actually do while a Presidential Adviser that was "Marxist" or "radical" or anything like that? Glenn Beck never actually talked about what kind of job the man was doing, just what he, personally had said outside of the context of his position. This is called a hit-job in journalism.

To compare, President Carter was a devout Christian, and spoke fondly of the religion and how it could enrich people's lives. However, it did not become a major part of his policy-making decisions while in office, something that the Right-Wing chewed on him for years for.

Get over yourself, Mr. Beck is starting to sound like a modern Senator McCarthy, seeing Marxists wherever he looks, or at least wherever he looks that does not fit into the Neo-Conservative agenda.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 05:56 PM
reply to post by ProjectJimmy

It's funny that you used the McCarthy angle w/ GB when it seems to me that it is more like the cries of racism we hear today. You get called out as a racist, that is the label you get stuck with. In my home state we had two small town politicians get hammered in the press after being secretly taped and using the "n" word. The one who was mayor has since resigned. Oh boy in a town that had to close a college bar some years back because of colored trash coming in with guns and causing trouble. Before anyone jumps on me for being racist, I was a witness to before the place closed and the reasons why it did. But hey I am only a cracker so what do I know.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Carseller4
FOX New is the #1 rated cable new channel for over 10 years running.

They are also Fair and Balanced.

They also report the news that the others don't touch. Reverend Wright, TEA Parties, Black Panthers voter intimidation etc.

Why watch any other cable news, when FOX reports it up front from the beginning, while the others are backtracking and trying to catch up?

[edit on 21-7-2010 by Carseller4]

Jesus people, this is idiocy is what propagated, the wars and largest expansion of government influence in modern history.

You are right though, #1

MSM of all the MSM -

You Foxers are the most dangerous lot, ever faithful and contrary to individual thought
and opinion.

Swoosh, boom, biff - enter electric guitar squeal, eagles, old glory and a giant shinny graphic.

God help us all, for we are all at the mercy of your one way dialogue with a TV set.
Hitler would have had fun with such a lot, you are Goebbels legacy, they are amused.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 06:12 PM

Originally posted by hangedman13
reply to post by ProjectJimmy

It's funny that you used the McCarthy angle w/ GB when it seems to me that it is more like the cries of racism we hear today. You get called out as a racist, that is the label you get stuck with. In my home state we had two small town politicians get hammered in the press after being secretly taped and using the "n" word. The one who was mayor has since resigned. Oh boy in a town that had to close a college bar some years back because of colored trash coming in with guns and causing trouble. Before anyone jumps on me for being racist, I was a witness to before the place closed and the reasons why it did. But hey I am only a cracker so what do I know.

Did I say anything about racism? Not at all. I personally think that your country is currently going a bit overboard on calling people racist, especially when the real racists are not being taken to task for it.

By real racists I mean people like the KKK, Neo-Nazis and the New Black Panther Party. Senator Byrd got a pass, and should not have. The New Black Panther Party got a pass and should not have. The state office candidate in Vermont whom believes that America is for white people should be taken to task by the national media, and he's largely not been.

There is racism in America, and honestly your country has always had an uneasy record on it, mine isn't much better but at least we call a bigot a bigot and not go on crazy witch hunts instead.

But that is a different issue, and one that I do not fully agree with Glenn Beck on either, he's called a lot of people racists too. Here though I am talking about his insanity in calling everyone he disagrees with a Marxist. President Obama is not a Marxist, or even a socialist. Hell even most people who are socialists are not Marxists, I know I'm not!

Good try to derail my argument though. We'll done there, but in the future if you're going to challenge my ideas, how about actually relating them to my ideas instead of creating straw men that are easy to defeat?

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 07:30 PM
reply to post by ProjectJimmy

Really now take a deep breath... Feel better? You missed the point, in the US [which I didn't realize you were not from] racism is the new communist, in regards to modern McCarthyism. Instead of going before a senate committee you are investigated by the media. Being labeled a racist in politics is a death sentence. But that only seems to be the case against white pols. You need to reread what I wrote. My point was that racism is the new McCarthyism and you jumped out of your socks over it, I was not derailing your argument but pointing out something that as a foreigner you don't grasp. Bits and pieces of US news shows does not give you a firm grasp on what is going on in the US. You only get part of the picture not being in America and dealing with the BS machine that is our media. I think you didn't like the fact I was more accurate in my OBSERVATION.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 07:47 PM

Originally posted by WolfofWar
I think the only thing Glenn beck needs to do is address the allegations that he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

First time I heard this, so I started reading..

So far I've found that he's obviously guilty because he hasn't denied such charges.

There's no body because .. he ate her?

There's no statement that says he's never raped a girl.

Wow wolf, that's a lot of evidence..
Probably the single dumbest rumor I've ever read, perpetrated by sick ignorant imbeciles.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 07:56 PM
reply to post by Misoir

Get your facts straight before you start throwing blame around.Its people like you that caused this poor woman to resign her position. The president made the decision to ask for her resignation no one else. He was scared this would get picked up by the media. The Obama administration time and again proves its reactionary and even worse rushes to judgment before he has the facts. An incident with a cop and college professor comes to mind as well.

As for Fox i suggest you read this article in the Washington post.

Ousted official Shirley Sherrod blamed Fox, but other outlets ran with story

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 22, 2010

The White House spokesman and the agriculture secretary weren't the only ones offering regrets Wednesday to the lower-level official abruptly fired over a videotape excerpt that turned out to be totally misleading. Bill O'Reilly apologized to Shirley Sherrod as well.

Sherrod may be the only official ever dismissed because of the fear that Fox host Glenn Beck might go after her. As Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack tried to pressure her into resigning, Sherrod says Deputy Under Secretary Cheryl Cook called her Monday to say "do it, because you're going to be on 'Glenn Beck' tonight." And for all the focus on Fox, much of the mainstream media ran with a fragmentary story that painted an obscure 62-year-old Georgian as an unrepentant racist.

Ousted official Shirley Sherrod blamed Fox, but other outlets ran with story

I'm sure fox news will be getting your apology soon for rushing to judgment right.

[edit on 7/22/10 by dragonridr]

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 09:24 PM
Here is my new theory... I wish I could make a thread for it but alas... 12 posts so far. Here it goes:

The whole thing was planned from the beginning with full knowledge by all parties. Yeah that is right, all of them... USDA employees, Obama, Gibbs, and yes even Shirley Sherrod. Here is my version of events.

Rahm Emanuel: Hey Barry, I got an idea to take the focus off of the Black Panther and Eric (Holder) thing.

Barrack Obama: Whatcha thinking?

Rahm: That Sherrod girl... well fire her... but have USDA guy do it, and tell her too. Once she is fired bring her back with an apology and then have her blame it all on Fox News. Hopefully then everyone will realize like we do what pieces of crap they are.

Barry: I like it... lemme know how it turns out. I am going golfing.

I dont believe that things happen by chance. Tis a bit funny to me how she is blaming only one of the many news outlets as what made this a debacle. I think that she is complicit in this just as much as anyone else made mistakes.

What do y'all think?

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 09:33 PM
reply to post by Y2KJMan

Maybe she just called it as she saw it. Fox is the self-proclaimed leader, so it therefore follows many people watch them. It could also very well be argued that they are infectious as leaders. Breitbart may have been patient zero, but Fox spread the disease like wildfire, and that in turn was picked up by their followers and Breitbart's to a degree, though his audience is not as wide.. Fox was actually THE most virulent and unrelenting in their assassination of her character, and anyone with an ounce of logic can clearly see this.

[edit on 7/22/2010 by ~Lucidity]

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 09:37 PM
That is like saying:

I blame my wife for giving me the flu even though I know its a virus that actually causes it. Since it was her that was around me and that is what I see most often, wives must cause Influenza.

Just because Fox was the wife in this story, doesnt mean the networks and news outlets that do not get watched (CNN, MSNBC, etc) werent causes.

Personally I thought Fox was a little light on the character assassination thing. I did hear mis-beliefs. yet I heard none of what happens to GB for example (on these boards mind you) spoken about her.

Unless you can find me a video to show I have a false memory.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 09:50 PM

Well, you managed to up set a lot of people here on ATS.

You are most assuredly a left wing Progressive plant.
You have pulled a lot of cranks here! I hope all the people responding to your cry baby antics realize who you are and what you are up to.

Ok, people if you let someone like this yahoo (misoir) upset you then what every you do, do not go to the Gathering at the Capital on Aug,28th because there will be hatred spewed by analorffices like him all day long right in your face.

Mind you I am not telling you that you should not go to the Tea Party gathering and am only pointing out to you that if you do go or know people who are going that you should be low key and stay that way.

God Bless if you do go ...................................KMG

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 10:08 PM
reply to post by Y2KJMan

There are some videos and audio in the thread at the link I posted above. Just for some perspective on virulence in the media. And don't forget that leaders like Fox and GB are typically held to a higher standard.

posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 10:20 PM
Hi Misoir,

I don’t think I have ever meet a more miss informed person then you. Try getting to the truth before you post a bunch of bull, you might find the truth enlightening. As far as war goes, we in this country are at war and I am afraid the blood will start to flow sooner rather than latter. I see that you have declared yourself an atheist, that’s fine and that also explains why you know nothing of the truth. Our founding fathers were all deeply root in the belief of God, and thus is the reason for the wording of our Constitution as our rights are of God given rites, not the founders rites or the person who makes up the rites but God Given Rights. So I say to you if you are a Proud Liberal Atheist then please move out of my country to make room for those whom do believe in a better way of life without Socialist, Marxist, and the butt backwards ideas of the Shariah Law believers. I will not read any more of this thread or add another comment. Read your history the real history not the one made up and taught to our public school system, but the real history that has not been edited to serve the progressive morons currently in charge of the federal government.

posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 12:38 AM
How can you guys not see that the people on both sides of this malarchy are on the same team? The corporatist side! You think Obama or any of these people are socialist? Or conservative? They are all CORPORATE WH*RES! C'mon people wake up to who the real enemy of us ALL is.

posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 07:32 AM
reply to post by muzzleflash

I was wrong.

I still do believe that FOX News is racist and I am skeptical about Glenn Beck on the race issue. But pretty much I proved myself as ignorant when posting this thread, but I can't delete it. I should have learned from the other thread I created without having facts. But as you can tell, I didn't learn. Hopefully I learned my lesson now.

And just to clear something up, I was NOT defending Obama or his administration on this.

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