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Whites, Independents Deserting Obama...

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posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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A Year After Honeymoon Ends, Whites, Men and Independents Desert Obama.

What is basically comes down too, Obama lied and people have awaken to his lies and his dragging of America into a health-care system most of us did not want to be any part of.

Quote from article: Candidate Obama promised “change we can believe in,” a post-partisan, problem-solving presidency that would heal the nation’s yawning political divide. By the time he was inaugurated in January 2009, Mr. Obama had stratospheric public approval ratings, heightened by many who had voted against him but decided to give him a chance despite their misgivings.

For the first six months of his presidency, Mr. Obama retained vigorous public support – until he tried to translate into legislation his promise to “reform” health care, which, it turned out, meant different things to different voters. In July 2009, the demonstrations against the Obama health care plan reached critical mass and began to deflate the president’s poll numbers, and that continues today. end quote.

There is much, much more to this article, please go to the source:
blogs.wsj.com...
peter.brown@quinnipiac.edu.

Now to back this claim a little more, only because I will have the Obamanites swarming this thread calling me a lier and there's no proof that Obama is a loser.

July 21, 2010 - Obama Approval Drops To Lowest Point Ever, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Independent Voters Turn On President Since Honeymoon.
From the Source: www.quinnipiac.edu...

I know, I know, Obamanites please hold your heads onto your shoulders, I know your going to blow your tops. You're going to scream Bias, Right Wing and every other thing you can, Because you can not show data to proof this wrong

[A year after President Barack Obama's political honeymoon ended, his job approval rating has dropped to a negative 44 - 48 percent, his worst net score ever, and American voters say by a narrow 39 - 36 percent margin that they would vote for an unnamed Republican rather than President Obama in 2012, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.] end quote

This is interesting: [Twelve percent of voters say they are more likely to support a candidate for office, if Obama campaigns for the candidate, compared to 16 percent if Palin campaigns.]
Voter approval of the President's handling of some of the nation's problems shows:
•Disapprove 56 - 39 percent of his handling of the economy;
•Disapprove 46 - 43 percent of his handling of foreign policy;
•Disapprove 51 - 41 percent of his handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill;
•Disapprove 58 - 30 percent of his handling of illegal immigration.

And the his biggest mistake after the Obama Socialized Health - Care is this:
["The massive disapproval of his handling of illegal immigration stems from voter opposition to his decision to have the government ask the federal courts to throw out the Arizona law. They say 60 - 28 percent the lawsuit is a bad idea," said Brown] quote.
The source again for you all is: www.quinnipiac.edu...
At the: www.drudgereport.com...




posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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So, What do you think?
Who will be ultimately responsible for the Changes coming in November?

I personally think many, many people are tired of the lies and broken promises made to them to include many of my gay and lesbian friends here.

I know of many a Black person that is feed up with Obama and yes they voted for him and believed he would bring more unity to America.

I also know personally many Legalized Chinese people that would not vote for Obama and that is to include the Legal immigrates I know from Mexico and Hungary and Russia.

I did not Vote For Obama.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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seems only fitting
since Obama deserted Americans
by continuing the Bush policies.
America wanted change
and Obama didn't deliver.

1 term and out

time to call in the 2nd string QB
we're losing the game.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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Yay!

Another thread about race.

I can see the fox headline for tomorrow...

"Whites don't like Obama"




posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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I can't believe that it is taking America this long to see Obama for what he is, a liar. Most of my liberal friends gave up on Obama a long time ago, as did many other liberals. CounterPuch immediately comes to mind.

In all reality, the only people who are going to wind up blindly supporting Obama, are the elites profiting from him and the black population. Sadly, the black population will probably support him until the very end, simply due to his skin color. Apparently, it isn't considered racist if your black and support a candidate simply for the color of his skin. I could imagine that there will be many white liberals who publicly support him, out of fear of being labeled a racist for being in opposition to him.

What people publicly say and how they vote are two different things, as we saw with the 1991 gubernatorial race in Louisiana of David Duke, the former KKK member.

--airspoon


[edit on 21-7-2010 by airspoon]



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Also please include in the OP Browns who are fed up with this administrations pandering to those who commit illegal behaviors. Illegal behaviors such as : Promoting Racial Injustice, promoting illegal immigration practices, promoting bad business practices and punishing good business models, the list continues....

My family and other immigrants I know came here the legal way with 20 dollars to our name. We are sick of this administration putting our struggles aside and giving a free pass to those who constantly break rules and laugh at the law.

This Brown and many more of my community members across the nation have already distanced ourselves from this administration & those who subscribe to their policies/agenda.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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I will not agree to call President Obama names or attack his integrity. Historians will have all the time they want to do this. However, I can predict with accuracy he'll choose not to run in 2012 because he can't possibly win in the primaries. The nation won't be back to work yet and people will vote with their wallet for someone who will produce jobs, not controversy.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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they dont like obama cause hes not liberla enough

they dont like obama cause they still have to work

they dont like obama cause they dont have a free home

they dont like obama cause they still have to pay for a car

they dont like obama cause they still have to pay for gas

they dont like obama cause they still have to pay for food


thats why liberals have left

i knew everything i needed to know about obama 2 years ago.......


independents are a cop out in my opinion they are fence sitters which is bs

take a good hard long look at both parties and see where you truly stand look that their history (not the rewritten history of the democrats) and not the non stop hatred that the democrats want you to have for the republicans

take a good hard long look and are the democrats truly the party of the middle class and minorites? i say no they are not they want you to be soley dependent on them for everything in your lives they want to be your mother and father and tell you when you have to much or you have enough.

contrast the republicans is more about self reliance help your selves and givng you the opportunity to make a decent living.

its not the evil banks,corporatings and the race hatered more or less its all about the money

hatred is the tool by which they control you

who works for it
who has their hands out for it
who steals it from you to give to someone else too lazy or to stupid to do anything about.


which party does those things ?



" he who has the money has the control of you as well"

[edit on 21-7-2010 by neo96]



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 04:54 PM
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reply to post by airforce47
 


Only five US Presidents didn't win the nomination to run for a second or third term with only one winning the election to be President in the first place. The other four became President after being VPs promoted due to assassinations or deaths of Presidents in office. That one single President who was originally elected to the office but lost the nomination for an additional term, was Franklin Pierce who served as the 14th President from 1853-1857 and lost to John Fremont. Pierce is easily credited with being the worst President in US history.

Obama is not perceived in nearly enough negative light to even consider a loss of nomination for his second term. Look at it this way, if Bush won the '04 general election after the raping of the country that he did, then Obama can easily do the same thing. After all, the public is not nearly as aware and/or vigilant as they were back in the 19th century, the generation who sent Franklin Pierce packing.

This generation of Americans is easily fooled and all it takes is couple false rumors, fear mongering, celebrity endorsement or the latest season of American Idol for any tyrant to remain on the thrown.

As far as historians having all of the time they need to judge whether Obama was a good President, sadly history is written by the victor. History is hardly ever accurate and only reflects what those who write it want it to reflect. Furthermore, regardless of how much time historians will have to form an opinion, our current generation doesn't have the same leeway. We are currently walking a thin rope and if we wait for the generations after ours to actually think, we are going to be in some trouble.

Listen to what your suggesting, that we should leave our critical decisions to those generations who come after ours. It is that kind of thinking that is the reason we find ourselves in the current pickle that we are in.


--airspoon




[edit on 21-7-2010 by airspoon]



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 05:21 PM
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...fairytales were told in the most recent campaign and every campaign before that... iow - its nothing new... the majority of citizens of the usofa have been (and still are) reared to believe that fantasy is reality - and - that translates to "easily manipulated"...

...in the last presidential campaign, once again lots of citizens believed the fairytales were something real, something valid... when they realized that the fairytales were just fairytales, they couldnt take responsibility for being gullible - so, they blamed the fairytale teller for doing what fairytale tellers do - tell fairytales...



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by prionace glauca
Also please include in the OP Browns who are fed up with this administrations pandering to those who commit illegal behaviors. Illegal behaviors such as : Promoting Racial Injustice, promoting illegal immigration practices, promoting bad business practices and punishing good business models, the list continues....

My family and other immigrants I know came here the legal way with 20 dollars to our name. We are sick of this administration putting our struggles aside and giving a free pass to those who constantly break rules and laugh at the law.

This Brown and many more of my community members across the nation have already distanced ourselves from this administration & those who subscribe to their policies/agenda.


My friend prionace glauca, I will try and include what I can find.

This is what I found: Hispanics are a rising, hotly contested demographic. They have traditionally supported Democrats; however, George W. Bush made substantial progress in earning Hispanic votes in 2000 and 2004, earning 35% of their vote in 2000 and 40% of their vote in 2004. In 2008, John McCain clearly lost ground with Hispanic votes. However, most demographic groups moved in favor of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party. Thus, to determine whether a distinct change occurred specifically with Hispanic voters, those voters must be compared to the national trend. The key question researched is whether Obama’s success with Hispanic voters in 2008 is strong enough to be distinguished from the national trend to an extent that could jeopardize a long-term political goal of Republicans to reach out to Hispanic voters. The results of an examination of surveys and exit polls indicate that Hispanics voted for Obama based on unfavorable views of the incumbent administration and support for Democratic policies. As a result, the Obama campaign identified them as predisposed supporters, and they waged an exceptionally effective mobilization effort to bring them to the polls.

The states where Hispanic voters were sampled in exit polls reported by CNN in both 2004 and 2008 were Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, and Texas. The most competitive of the previous states were Colorado, Florida, Nevada, and New Mexico. In addition to being the presidential election prior to 2008, the 2004 presidential election serves as George W. Bush’s best election with Hispanic voters. Because of Barack Obama’s strong success with black voters, the Hispanic vote results will be compared with the Non-Hispanic White vote.

TABLE 1
HISPANIC VOTE 2004 RESULTS 2008 RESULTS
STATE KERRY BUSH OBAMA McCAIN
ARIZONA 56% 43% 56% 41%
CA 63% 42% 74% 23%
CO 68% 30% 61% 38%
FLORIDA 44% 56% 57% 42%
ILLINOIS 76% 23% 72% 27%
NEVADA 60% 39% 76% 22%
NEW JERSEY 56% 43% 78% 21%
NEW MEX 56% 44% 69% 30%
TEXAS 50% 49% 63% 35%



Right away, we can see how Obama made progress with Hispanic voters. For example in Florida, the numbers have flipped. The exit polls do not distinguish Mexican-Americans from Cuban-Americans, but it is safe to say that Democrats made excellent progress in appealing to Cuban-Americans.

My friend, I hope that helps. I don't really don't know how they'll vote in 2012, I only know what my friends tell me about themselves and their families and how they'll vote and it is not for the Savior, Obama!
source: www.dailykos.com...


[edit on 21-7-2010 by guohua]



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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That is a Great Question from prionace glauca on how will the Mexican / Americans vote? The people I know, felt used and trashed by the Democrats.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 09:48 PM
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I truly believe the Republicans need to listen to the Mexican population, I mean the citizen and legal Mexican population. I know plenty that are Democrat through and through, but are just as tired as we are of all the taxes and no action on our border problem.

They are looking to vote and it won't be Obama, they do like Hillary

go figure that one out.
Many told me, they'd have voted for Hillary if she'd made it.



posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by guohua
I truly believe the Republicans need to listen to the Mexican population, I mean the citizen and legal Mexican population. I know plenty that are Democrat through and through, but are just as tired as we are of all the taxes and no action on our border problem.

They are looking to vote and it won't be Obama, they do like Hillary

go figure that one out.
Many told me, they'd have voted for Hillary if she'd made it.


The AZ bill that will soon go into effect is a major reason many of the Mexican Americans I know will probably never vote Republican again. These people dislike racial discrimination much more then any other issues going on at the moment.



posted on Jul, 22 2010 @ 11:25 PM
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Where the erosion is taking place is in white America, among working- and middle-class folks who voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries but took a chance with Obama in the fall. Now, every time some new incident erupts, these folks are being tarred.

Opposition to affirmative action is racist. Supporting the tea party gives aid and comfort to racists. Opposing health care puts you in league with folks who used racial slurs on Rep. John Lewis. To raise the issue of the New Black Panther Party is to play the race card.

One understands the bitterness of tea-party folks who carry signs that read: "What difference does it make what this placard says? You'll call it racist anyway."

As the National Journal's Ron Brownstein has been reporting, white America is increasingly alienated and distrustful of all our major economic and political power centers – the banks, big corporations, the government.

And, for the first time in our lifetimes outside the South, white racial consciousness has visibly begun to rise.

I agree with everything written above.
Source: www.wnd.com...

I know many a Liberal that thinks this way, they still believe in Hope and Change and the Races will be the same as one.
Not as long as you support the NAACP and The New Black Panther Party and Socialism.
To many Americans remember we have paid our price for our freedom in the Blood of our Brothers and Sisters in Battle and Sacrifices.

Obama and his faithful Followers should just fad away quietly.
Just my thoughts and you don't have to agree, but don't come here and defend your POTUS to me.



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