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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
...if skeptics and debunkers are not going to believe astronauts testifying to the united nations under oath about encountering them in outer space, then ATSers aren't going to believe me, either...
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
Do you have a link to this testimony -- I'd like to read it.
"I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs."
-- Major Gordon Cooper, astronaut, testifying under oath to the United Nations.
Supportive links and majority of sources/collaboration:
www.v-j-enterprises.com...
www.ufoevidence.org...
www.ufoevidence.org...
www.ufodigest.com...
www.ufodigest.com...
www.anomalous-images.com...
sources researched from this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...
"I think that Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public.”
-- Pilot Walter Schirra
Originally posted by brokedownThe debunker attacks you personally with no offer of supporting proof.
My question is WHY? Why would a normal person put out such an effort.
Why would they care.
A Fair Analogy? :
Debunkers Are Only Right 15 out of 16 times, when the puzzle only has 2 pieces.
but once out of 16 times two sides of those puzzle pieces do fit together.
the only thing debunkers have on their side is the statistics! and the numbers are in their favor!
debunkers sometimes stop trying to fit a piece of the puzzle into place after a few failures. or attempt skeptics, believers, and those who are sure from attempting to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
maybe they are 4 sides to the puzzle themselves?
......................................absolutley sure........................
..........................................^......................................
debunker/no chance..............skeptical/don't know
..........................................v......................................
.......................................believer/no proof.....................
don't get me wrong, ATS is a better place with the debunkers.
HOWEVER, if you are entering into a discussion with the clear intentions of being only focussed on debunking, then you are less likely to be receptive to the larger discussion.
it has been my observation that there are members who will argue senselessly against the existance of one pixel or what exactly the pixel could be, rather than accepting that the pixel actually is or may be a pixel and it's neighboring pixels exist in order to accept that the whole computer screen makes more sense with the pixels than without the pixels.
those are some thoughts i had, i thought i would share,
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