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Be skeptical of debunkers, Debunk Skeptics & Believe in someone.

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posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 05:12 PM
here is a great book...

posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 08:47 AM
Shouldn't this be in general conspiracies due to it's lack of UFO or Alien content or BTS due to it's funny picture evolution?

It's getting late here and soon I'll rebunk before I debunk tomorrow morning.


posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 09:06 PM
reply to post by m0r1arty

one variable in the equasion of what a mind can accept as factually existing is what a mind is prepared to accept as even being possible.

i think our collective state of mind, and our individual state of mind, what we assume is possible or probable, in part determines what our senses permit us to be consciously aware of.

in other words, if one is more skeptical, or more a debunker, or more a believer, than the other two, then seeing ufo's probably isn't compliant with their intentions or their priorities.

do i think this topic is ufo related?

yes, i do. since it was a ufo sighting that inspired it being authored.

i'd share, but why bother?

if skeptics and debunkers are not going to believe astronauts testifying to the united nations under oath about encountering them in outer space, then ATSers aren't going to believe me, either.

so i'll keep my encounters to myself, and that is the reasoning why.

why spend billions of dollars sending them into space, if you ain't going to believe what they say they saw/experienced in space?


posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
...if skeptics and debunkers are not going to believe astronauts testifying to the united nations under oath about encountering them in outer space, then ATSers aren't going to believe me, either...

Do you have a link to this testimony -- I'd like to read it.

posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
Do you have a link to this testimony -- I'd like to read it.

Yeah me too!

It'd make a believer out of me and everything.


posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 03:13 AM
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People

i was specifically speaking about Gordon Cooper when i made that statement.

here is a link to a source:

there is a few more links to a couple hundred thousand plus hits for "Gordon Cooper United Nations" found by google, btw.

i've only read or heard portions of the transcripts. i think some of it may not be fully public. but, one may believe what one chooses to believe in.

"I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs."
-- Major Gordon Cooper, astronaut, testifying under oath to the United Nations.

i googled "ufo astronaut testifying under oath united nations
29,000+ hits:

i first learned about it researching credible quotes for this thread:

it was also mentioned in this thread somewhere if memory serves me right, with some sources/links:

Supportive links and majority of sources/collaboration:

sources researched from this thread:

one quote i really like:

"I think that Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public.”

-- Pilot Walter Schirra

Hope this helps,

[edit on 16-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 04:27 AM

Originally posted by brokedownThe debunker attacks you personally with no offer of supporting proof.

Actually the one with no supporting the proof is the one makingthe claim

My question is WHY? Why would a normal person put out such an effort.
Why would they care.

A better question is why do people make up such silly stuff as chemtrails, with zero proof to back their claims up.

posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:08 AM
I posted this first in Nefermore’s thread located here:

I’m cutting and pasting it to my own thread here:

A Fair Analogy? :

Debunkers Are Only Right 15 out of 16 times, when the puzzle only has 2 pieces.

but once out of 16 times two sides of those puzzle pieces do fit together.

the only thing debunkers have on their side is the statistics! and the numbers are in their favor!

debunkers sometimes stop trying to fit a piece of the puzzle into place after a few failures. or attempt skeptics, believers, and those who are sure from attempting to put the pieces of the puzzle together.

maybe they are 4 sides to the puzzle themselves?

......................................absolutley sure........................
debunker/no chance..............skeptical/don't know
.......................................believer/no proof.....................

don't get me wrong, ATS is a better place with the debunkers.

HOWEVER, if you are entering into a discussion with the clear intentions of being only focussed on debunking, then you are less likely to be receptive to the larger discussion.

it has been my observation that there are members who will argue senselessly against the existance of one pixel or what exactly the pixel could be, rather than accepting that the pixel actually is or may be a pixel and it's neighboring pixels exist in order to accept that the whole computer screen makes more sense with the pixels than without the pixels.

those are some thoughts i had, i thought i would share,

[edit on 18-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 11:54 AM
For some newer members around here....

Do the Bump:

posted on Dec, 6 2014 @ 03:06 AM
Hey, some of this stuff could be true!

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