It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Not only can't you buy one, but the government says it's currently illegal for automakers to sell these green cars outside of the special states. Under terms of the Clean Air Act—in the kind of delicious irony only our government can pull off—anyone (dealer, consumer, automaker) involved in an out-of-bounds PZEV sale could be subject to civil fines of up to $27,500. Volvo sent its dealers a memo alerting them to this fact, noting that its greenest S40 and V50 models were only for the special states.
So, just how green is a PZEV machine? Well, if you just cut your lawn with a gas mower, congratulations, you just put out more pollution in one hour than these cars do in 2,000 miles of driving. Grill a single juicy burger, and you've cooked up the same hydrocarbon emissions as a three-hour drive in a Ford Focus PZEV. As the California Air Resources Board has noted, the tailpipe emissions of these cars can be cleaner than the outside air in smoggy cities.
If you want something to champion, why not for super low emissions vehicles that are cleaner than hybrids, but can't be sold outside of certain states due to political reasons?
Originally posted by Dbriefed
Another green effort that backfired was the California MTBE fiasco. MTBE was a waste product that environmentalists promoted as an fuel oxidizer and was added to gasoline. This required retrofitting refineries and the cost was passed on to consumers. MTBE is a carcinogen, and the molecules were smaller than water molecules, so it found it's way out the exhaust, with the rain through the ground and into groundwater poisoning thousands of wells. MTBE had to be removed from gasoline and the refineries had to be retrofitted, and the cost was passed on to consumers. The damage to U.S. groundwater was estimated to be $30 Billion. en.wikipedia.org...
[edit on 21-7-2010 by Dbriefed]
Originally posted by Shadowed
reply to post by Stewie
Sometimes you have to try to do the right thing even if it may actually be just bogus. If you do nothing then certainly nothing good willl come from it.
[edit on 20/7/10 by Shadowed]
Originally posted by JohnySeagull
This statement is all wrong. I am afraid I have to agree with Stewie.
Your sentiment of trying to do the right thing even if it might actually be just bogus, is exactly why we are in the mess we are in today.
I have followed this attitude all my life becuase it is what everbody has done. I knew in my heart it was all bogus. I didn't listen to myself and buried the truth inside myself like everybody else. Not anymore.
Stop been fooled. Its not about jumping on the bandwagon of the latest trend. You can be sure coperate america is behind this if you look hard enough.
I also don't think anybody needs to bulid anymore walls. Haven't we had enough trouble with walls in the past?
All walls need to be brought down.