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Originally posted by unityemissions
Originally posted by kevinunknown
It seems to be that almost every day now we have someone writing about their experiences of mental health but with a bit of a conspiracy twist. I am talking about statements like “I was abducted by Aliens and that is why i am mentally ill” or “I might be mentally ill but that is because of a glitch in the matrix”, and “I am not mentally ill rather I am being visited by God”.
1% of the population is considered schizophrenic, and you don't think this site would attract more than the norm? I learned to filter through a lot of the nonsense long ago. If you don't think there are wicked cool opinions and pearls of truth here, why do you bother?
When people who are living with a significant mental health diagnosis on ATS they are confronted with two things that could be dangerous in their fragile state of mind. The first is an entire forum detected on the most part to expose medication as being unnecessary and even dangerous, it talks about how it can make us ill and even control us. The second danger comes from the people on ATS who fuel their psychotic delusions and build further mistrust in the health services. Sometimes people on ATS try to convince people who talk about a mental illness that they are not mentally ill rather they have some type of special incite or are being subjected to some form of mind control.
Now this is where I disagree. Why are you using the schizophrenics on ATS to push your agenda that health care professionals are ethical and should be trusted? People who expose the crooked organizations are not necessarily being paranoid, imo. If you look through the history of the medical profession, psychiatry, and mental health treatment, you may see that it always looks barbaric from our perspective. I don't think this has changed. It seems to me someone from a future generation would look back and notice all the errors and think of our treatment as inhumane. Maybe some people already see this.
These claims to not benefit that person in anyway regardless if they are going through a psychotic period or not, they cast doubt over their very diagnosis and can encourage them to stop taking their medication. Its highly unethical and I suspect the only reason some ATS members like to give alternative explanations about what mental illness is, is because they are ignorant. I bet none of you would tell any relatives you may have who are living with a mentally illness that they are not mentally ill but just hearing the voice of God.
Yeah well my understanding that allopathic medicine had nothing to offer my situation, and wouldn't go after the root cause to cure me, caused me to seek out an alternative treatment that not only treated me well, but slowly reversed my diseased state. How many of those synthetic chemicals can go about curing your chronic stress and aid in healing emotional/social issues?
Originally posted by Tayesin
An interesting discussion here. Not sure if I agree completely with the OP, although there are some valid reasonings in the discussion offered.
The Mental Health Industry.. note the word Industry... must try and maintain itself, and in creating ever more illnesses to be medicated we would have to wonder about their Intent.
I hear and see. I get visions of things that always happen. I hear information and communicate with the dead, and other beings, etc.
It has been this way for me since I was a small boy, and yet I spent time in the Air Force, had a healthy marriage and children, held down jobs.. you know, the usual things that are expected of us in our Culture.
I've been to a psyche for 3 months to find out if they thought I was ill in any way. So I was up front, very honest about all my experiences.. even told them that I work as a psychic for a living.. and yet I still came away with a healthy report.. no notes or concerns just a clean bill of mental health!
I think to ban a whole segment of people from here would be the wrong thing to do.. but I also agree that some degree of balance should be offered in conversations.
Mental illness is a tricky path, for some they are genuinely experiencing a different reality to the one most people are. This doesn't mean we should label them and punish them accordingly. It does mean that as yet we do not have the tools required to fully understand the experience of others.
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
reply to post by SubPop79
Explanation: I think the OP'er (kevinunknown) was refering more to members that post "OMG! XY or Z Theory or Sighting or Prediction" followed up with dislosure of either their real and or percieved mental state of affairs as being..hmmm lets say untidy [omfg PC from me I admit my bias and don't really see myself as mental ill..from my POV I am, have and always will be fine! ]
Personal Disclosure: If the Dr's can't explain it to me and make absolute sense without popping me some pill, powder and or potion, then really can they say that they've been effective..affective yes..but effective???
P.S. @ kevinunknown...
NLP [neuro-linguistic-programming] + healthy lifestyle WORKS! PLEASE Stop pushing Big Pharma's BS on us OK!