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reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 01:12 PM by ghaleon12
reply to post by Xcalibur254



I've studied psychology and the fact of the matter is that prescription drugs are being overprescribed. I don't think anyone doubts that severe mental illness should be treated with prescription drugs, but there are forces that want to move the line of what is severe and what isn't. That's what people, I would say, are getting at. Also, how "empirical" evidence or studies can be purposely skewed to make drugs look more effective than they are, and have lesser side effects than what they actually do. You have to remember, the drug companies hid the fact that antidepressants increase the risk for suicide the first couple months of taking it. That's a fact. Now they have a black box warning.

There are shady things going on in the drug industry, like in many industries so more profit can be made, but unlike other industries if the pharm industry cuts corners, people's health is on the line.

How to "best help" patients is first and foremost influenced by money, from the outset it's going to lead to problems for patients.



reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 01:53 PM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by ghaleon12



I am more than willing to admit there is an overprescription of meds, but that doesn't mean someone who is prescribed them should take the advice of someone on ATS over the advice of their doctor. Furthermore, if a drug company reports false data, it will eventually be found out through independent studies, such as was the case with Prozac. While it's a shame that pharmaceutical companies aren't transparent, they do realize if they skew facts too much they will be found out. And while there is a slight increase in suicidal ideation in children who take SSRIs, suicide rates as a whole have drastically decreased since their introduction. They have been a godsend for many, but like every drug they have the potential to cause harm, however in the long run they do more good than harm.


reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 02:04 PM by Demoncreeper
Originally posted by kevinunknown
reply to
post by GENERAL EYES



That’s quite a interesting contradiction compared to another ATSter who posted blaming is friends psychotic breakdown on this site.


I think it is great that GENERAL EYES had the smarts to use the site to his advantage, in seeking out therapeutic conversations with others with similar issues.

I don't blame the site, as much as the connections my friend made here. So I guess in essence, the site. But if it did good for someone else, awesome. I still come here, because I've also made connections with people of similar mind sets as me.

Sadly, my friend has zero ability to judge things on his own. If you show him a badly photoshopped picture of a giant cat, that cat will forever exist as real to him.

Trying to show him or some of the people here the dangers of what they discuss only gets you the label of a "disinfo" agent, and the cycle continues.

Can there be a line?

edit for the typo monster (it does exist)

[edit on 20-7-2010 by Demoncreeper]


reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 03:48 PM by kevinunknown
reply to post by Skyfloating



Thank you, that’s a interesting way of looking at it. I never write threads that are aimed to appease most ATSter’s that might make me unpopular but i don’t mind.


reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 04:15 PM by kevinunknown
reply to post by wigit



To be fair if they are using this site and disagree with me they are not going to tell me because what they would be saying is “yes ATS has made me madder”. What I am saying is that some of the threads on ATS such as those that fuel paranoid delusions or tell people their meds are bad for them are dangerous for people who might in a state of mind to take that stuff to be true.

This tread is about allot more than my one proposal to ban certain individuals based on their mental state. It’s also about how irresponsible some ATS members can be when conversing on ATS. More importantly what I was wanting to discuss were other people’s views on mental illness.


reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 04:53 PM by autowrench
reply to post by kevinunknown



Friend, I respect your opinion on this issue. but, I must say, the very term, "mental illness" is a term given by doctors who cannot understand the working of the mind on certain people. Mental illness is not something you "catch," or "get" what it is is a higher form of intelligence in some cases, and a departure from what people would call "normal behavior and thought." I happen to carry that label myself, given me by a medico long ago who spend time talking to me about things. One day I asked him why he felt it necessary to fill me with mind altering drugs. His answer really took me by surprise. He said, "Your mind works way up here...." (indicating far above his head) "....and I give you the drugs to bring you down here," (indicating his head) This says it all to me.



reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 05:52 PM by Totalstranger
Originally posted by MemoryShock
reply to
post by kevinunknown


Not a diagnosed psychiatric condition. The psychologist actually couldn't explain prescience with symptoms...

Have a look at the thread though when you get a chance; it's an interesting read...


problem is no one can call you out for being mental. you're a mod and that bestows you some cult like Jim Jones powers on here. But I'll try: Get some help. real help


reply posted on 20-7-2010 @ 06:15 PM by XPLodER
reply to post by kevinunknown



any person with half of on idea of how things really work in this world would be described as metally unfit by a system that is designed to keep us in the dark

any realist who sees coruption and denounces it is called depressed or metally unfit

any non mainstream ideas people have that are not produced by propaganda of school media or society as a whole are described as conspiracy so by definition to be part of a conspiracy site we are all metally defective

this is a tool to keep the fit from being infected with conspiracy or illness of not beleving the programming

XPLodER
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