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Originally posted by F800GSRIDER
Why can't you religious people grow up and evolve a bit instead of being stuck in the past doing blindly what somebody else preaches and look at the world and yourself and see what you can do to make life better for us all.
I don't think he believes in evolution
Originally posted by IamBoon
reply to post by rusethorcain
Let me guess , you hold onto the only true view of god? What attributes must he have. Stating that a god exists is OK , thing get tricky when defining his attributes and determining through those properties whether or not this god is even worth worshiping.
It is easy to believe in god, it is hard to do so in a rational manner.
ACtually what is being said in regards to your statement is that when born a human cannot process much about its environment , let alone any belief system . So belief in an infant with regards to any religion is pretty much absent making the baby a born Atheist.
While living in New York City, she founded the Theosophical Society in September 1875, with Henry Steel Olcott, William Quan Judge and others. Blavatsky wrote that all religions were both true in their inner teachings and problematic or imperfect in their external conventional manifestations. Her writings connecting esoteric spiritual knowledge with new science may be considered to be the first instance of what is now called New Age thinking.
"you must bear in mind how many powerful adversaries we have aroused ever since the formation of our Society. As I just said, if the Theosophical movement were one of those numerous modern crazes, as harmless at the end as they are evanescent, it would be simply laughed at― as it is now by those who still do not understand its real purport ― and left severely alone. But it is nothing of the kind. Intrinsically, Theosophy is the most serious movement of this age; and one, moreover, which threatens the very life of most of the time-honoured humbugs, prejudices, and social evils of the day ― those evils which fatten and make happy the upper ten and their imitators and sycophants, the wealthy dozens of the middle classes, while they positively crush and starve out of existence the millions of the poor. Think of this, and you will easily understand the reason of such a relentless persecution by those others who, more observant and perspicacious, do see the true nature of Theosophy, and therefore dread it." [27]
Originally posted by _SilentAssassin_
reply to post by mav0360
I can see a future for spiritual evolution. I do not see one for atheism, just self-destruction.
Originally posted by _SilentAssassin_
reply to post by mr-lizard
Is meaningful transparency a problem? Not exactly my fault.
Your perspective does not show any substance or supporting objective standards.
What will you do when you die? Are you ok with concept of life after death? Or do you think there's no reason for your existence? This is the age of self-awareness our minds need freedom to expand and explore, or should we just be suppressed to become civilization of atheists and quit our motivation to live & evolve? Do you prefer to have technological dictatorship to keep us all in slaves?
I think your error lays in the assumption that material things are just like living beings.
People mite have some kinda existence but it's not a being. And for a being to be classified as: living, it would need to have an infinite duration in time by definition. That's why physical things don't qualify for the name: Living.
You said you do not believe in deities, but how do you know that a deity is not alien for out of space. Can you be 100% sure? Answer.
Forgive me if I'm jumping to the wrong conclusions, but if atheism walks & talks like a fraud, then it's probably one.
[edit on 22-7-2010 by _SilentAssassin_]