Facebook Founders Charged With Death Penalty

reply to post by ~Lucidity


I agree about being respectful, but I cant help but also see the insanity of it all. A little graphite or ink on a bit of paper is just that, graphite and ink.

The best way to get rid of a person who incites is to ignore them, not kill them. That just creates more of them for spite.

Its hard to deal with a situation where both sides are wrong.

reply to post by getreadyalready

Somebody needs to make a porn of Muhammed and his 21 Virgins!! Now that would certainly top the Pakistani Google Searches! Especially if you throw a Horse or Dog in !! Pretty sure that would get you the Death Penalty too, but they would probably have to watch the video a few million times as "evidence" first.

That quote is even funnier than this article!!

Someone please tell me this article is a joke. It is, right? Come on, please say there's no validity to it and I will stop rolling around on the ground crying.

I wonder what they are paying for personal protection teams?

Might be a good job for some of you retired SO guys.

reply to post by Blaine91555


THIS.

If people see my work and no one hates it, I see it as great and a conclusion to the work's story. If someone goes and burns stuff and riots over it, well then, It is time to keep working, because there is a tale to be told between one man versus the world. And I so love such.

reply to post by ~Lucidity

Stop doing things like drawing their prophet to insult them

Yeah, you're right, Free Speech is so 18th Century, let's just censor things to cater to the desires of people who send people death threats over a cartoon

If we ban drawing Mohammad we should also ban drawing Jesus, Krishna, Buddha and L Ron Hubbard.

Whom is directly responsible for defiling the Holy Prophet Muhammad's (Peace Be Upon Him ) name? Does their country allow free speech? Do they have a law forbidding defoliation of the Holy Prophet's name? If not, than what makes this Pakistani lawyer think he can impose the laws of his country onto the people of another? Are we talking about the English version of Facebook, where are the servers hosted, what law applies to the users who defiled the Prophets name? Seems to me like no one has broken any laws...

ban the entire Facebook site from Pakistan

Problem solved, it'll be like Facebook never existed *poof*...

reply to post by joechip


Maybe. Or maybe people are fleeing the hell they have at home.

And maybe some of the reasons stated here might make a little bit of sense or at least give it all some context from their perspective.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


I love how some posts on here are saying Muslims are behind this. Yet I laugh cuz it's not true.

Here is what happened. A lawyer filed a complaint to the Pakistan government. Pakistan and many Islamic countries follow Islamic laws. This lawyer only knows that facebook violated their laws. They want to permanently ban them from Pakistan. That means the founders of facebook can never visit or go threw pakistan or open a business in Pakistan. They will not be allowed to make new websites that will be viewable in Pakistan.
That is all what this article is saying. Yet on here in this thread there are posts attacking Islam and Muslims. Yet this article has nothing about it. It's just a lawyer in pakistan trying to take some legal action since facebook violated their laws. That is it... I don't see where all Muslims are there chanting or saying we need to kill founders of facebook.

I also can't believe there is posts saying that Pakistan has the most searches for porn. yet you think google is hiding such information.

Yet I am a programmer and currently making a website I can tell you for sure you can't trace anyone geographically accurately.

In pakistan or any Islamic country. If you tried to get into porn or poker websites or websites to download pirated movies or software since they have pornogrphic ads it's banned.

You will see instead of the website a message saying sorry you can't access this website because it violates islamic law.

I bet still in pakistan there is people looking at porn websites but they are using proxy servers meaning they are connecting to a server that uses their internet connection.

So they can connect to a server in japan,germany, france, the U.S etc and google will only see the ip address of that server and the location which may be germany or else where.

I believe Google is telling the truth. I for one working on a website and I know for sure you can't accurately know where the person is from 100%.

The only way to get 100% accurate information would be if all ISP's that sell internet services collect your home address and verifies this. Then have some sort of library available for all website owners that they can use that libraries to check who is registering or on their website. For me my website logs ip addresses and records the ISP information. Yet I take it not 100% correct. It's just a way to let the person's ISP to know about the incident and notify the owner so he can restrict access to his server or block it.

Just saying you can't accurately track a person by there ip address to their address or thier country there are ways around that so you can get a ip address from another country then where they are.

So I doubt google is lieing I would believe them based on what I know about website programming.


What I said above in this post is that it might be a misinterpretation. I know the local language and to me on what he is saying he wants facebook to not exist in the sense of the pakistan borders. He wants pakistan to ban them to a point where no pakistani person inside the country will ever know who they are or what they do. They are not welcomed to pakistan.

This is just one lawyer and not all Muslims are saying this.

Like I said before drawing a picture of Muhammad is just like spitting at Islam religion.
This is why they are pissed. I bet this would be the same if others do something similar to another religion you will piss them off too and you shouldn't be surprised that they are pissed and will become violent. I mean what would you do if someone looked at you and spit at you and said what are you doing to do about it??? you wanna make something of it??

If your draw a picture of Muhammad or break rules of any religion. You are provoking a fight or violence. In otherwords your disturbing the peace.

reply to post by Blaine91555


I guess it goes to INTENT. A lot of the "tea party" type announcements I saw around the web about this were not doing the draw Muhammad thing to stand up for their freedoms. They were doing it to ridicule and stick it to the "terrorists." I'm in no way implying that everyone who participated and laughed at this did it for those reasons, but enough did. To me intent matters.

reply to post by computerwiz32

They will not be allowed to make new websites that will be viewable in Pakistan.
That is all what this article is saying. Yet on here in this thread there are posts attacking Islam and Muslims. Yet this article has nothing about it. It's just a lawyer in pakistan trying to take some legal action since facebook violated their laws.

Angered by the perceived blasphemy of the Prophet Mohammad, a Pakistani lawyer named Muhammad Azhar Sidiqque has petitioned the nation’s highest court to charge the three founders of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, Dustin Moskovitz and Chris Hughes with the death penalty.

So, what's that supposed to mean? Disinformation I assume...

reply to post by Jupiter Crashes

Nothing is going to become of this. I highly doubt our government would allow it.

LMAO! That's my favorite quote of the day, Jupiter.

I don't know, not many escape the consequences when they commit the heinous crime of death penalty. I just can't believe Mark Zuckerberg committed death penalty. He seemed like the "guy next door." LOL!

reply to post by computerwiz32

Very interesting stuff there. My first thought was that the translation would work out to be something like some other religions have called being "shunned." Which some translate as "you are dead to me." But again, good luck trying to get the real story these days...both due to translation idiosyncrasies and due to the penchant to incite rioting and more irrational hatred.

reply to post by Titen-Sxull

You probably missed 90% of the thread. That's okay though. It's a lot to read through.

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reply to post by computerwiz32


You actually said that if I break the rules of any religion, I'm provoking a fight and at fault. You cannot mean that! It's not possible first of all to follow all the world's religions' rules simultaneously, and I certainly and with great enthusiasm deny that its my responsibility to even KNOW all the stupid rules of the various religions, much less follow them!


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Why should anyone not living in a muslim state have to worry about what they say or draw or even write about mohammed, for fear of reprisals, violence or even death? This cannot be tolerated in any way shape or form. If the islamists' believe we can be pushed and prodded by threatening us they will continue to do so. The time is now to take a stand and stop the spread if islam in our countries.

reply to post by joechip



No you are supposed to know all the rules of all religions and obey them or face death. Wait, Catholics no longer stone you to death so take them out. I do not recall the buddhists coming to get us so take them out of the equation. B'Hai has not killed anyone recently I don't think so take them out. Ok then, that leaves the islam fanatics.

I think the problem the West has is that it doesn't realize us drawing their prophet is even worse than going to Harlem, NY, and yelling the "N" word through a megaphone.

Everyone deserves a little respect.

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No, Christians don't kill anyone. But if some people think they do, what's the difference? Just a very small sampling.














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reply to post by ~Lucidity


Well you more or less defended their right to attack because of disrespect to them. So I'm not all that sure you understand your own case.

reply to post by dlifesjrny


it is not ok to look at it that way, we did not go to Brooklyn and yell the N word. We did not even go to Pakistan and yell mohammed is a *%$@&* and we are still being threatened with death for it. Why are we willing to capitulate to threats just because they threaten us?