Will Thousands Of Police Layoffs Unleash Chaos And Anarchy Across America?

Now there is title dripping with doom if ever there was one. A bit alarmist? Perhaps, but consider that we are already seeing some pretty extreme crimes in areas where deep cuts to police services have taken place. Sure, there may be little direct relationship between the crime referenced in the previous sentence and the budget cuts, but as a general trend, it doesn't exactly bode well for general law and order as communities across the nation face "austerity," now does it?

Will Thousands Of Police Layoffs Unleash Chaos And Anarchy Across America?

Thousands of police officers have been laid off all across America since the current economic crisis began. Thousands more are getting ready to be laid off. So could we be on the verge of a new era of chaos and anarchy in America as crime runs wild and there are just far too few police to respond to it all? That is the message that one blood-smeared billboard in Stockton, California is trying to get across. Paid for by the Stockton, California police union, the message of the billboard is chillingly clear: "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops." ... law enforcement in Stockton has already been cut to the bone. Recently, the Stockton Police Department dropped this bombshell....

"We absolutely do not have any narcotics officers, narcotics sergeants working any kind of investigative narcotics type cases at this point in time."

Do you think drug dealers will be flocking to Stockton after they hear that?

But the truth is that so many of these local governments around the nation are just flat broke at this point.

Even major cities are having to admit that they have accumulated such large debts that they cannot even afford to provide the most basic services any longer...

More at source:
theeconomiccollapseblog.com...

Cities "renting" police and janitors ...

WSJ ...

We are going to see privatization on a scale like never before. My big concern is when this translates to NO police in some areas ... and when only the wealthy in those areas have private security forces.

And as much as people rail against the cops for some of the things a few of them do, they are trained and held to a much higher standard than private security forces.

Private security will bring a good share of chaos. And, literally, a state of quasi-warlordism.

Welcome to Afghanistan ... err ... I mean pure capitalism.

I can't think of anything better than laying off the pigs. i have nothing wrong with policing, just the police.

It is not the police layoffs that will cause chaos and anarchy, BUT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

If Americans are all such law abiding armed to the teeth saints, then there is really nothing to fear, is there ?

wow
it's the beginning of the Revolution.
Better start making pacts with neighbors
and friends right now. Our county sheriff just laid
off 10 deputies to budget cuts. And the county laid
off 25 school teachers.

Welcome to the great depression #2.

anybody know where the soup kitchens
are around here ????

Oops I forgot to mention

it is so sad that our government
or whomever is running the US
would rather Police Iraq and Afgh
than to take care of our own people
at home.

DC or somebody up there has their
priorities mixed up.

Or maybe they just don't give a damn !!!!

America is falling
how far it drops
depends on the resilience
of it's populace not the government
they've already proved
they ain't worth a [snip]

Dear god I hope so!


ANARCHY!!!!ANARCHY!!!!ANARCHY!!!!ANARCHY!!!!ANARCHY!!!!



[edit on 20-7-2010 by alien]

Hmmmm, the last 15 times I called the police to report breakins at my construction nothing was ever done. Had to keep reporting it for the insurance reasons or I would have quit after the second report.

We had a meeting with the head of the robberies division and he stated they could not give more patrols in the neighborhood. I guess home invasions are not a big money maker for the cops. Too busy going after the drug money and ticket money I guess. Also, my boss escorted me out of the meeting when the asshat actually suggested we hire an off duty officer at say $50/hr to patrol the site after hours.

My boss was right to escort me out of the meeting, I guess my face turned beet red. That POS was acting exactly like the frelling mafia. Pay him protection money, I am old school, someone threatens me or attempts to extort from me................well let us just say there are all kinds of open country everywhere in the US.

As for chaos breaking out. And tell me exactly where cops have decreased crime anywhere in the US? Please tell me. I want to move there, oh wait, I already do.

Expect to protect yourself and your family. That is your frelling job.

Someone show me a situation where a cop actually protected anyone. From anything, please, one example.

I will give you a nice example of the other end of it. On an American military base, just recently, a madman killed numerous people and injured many. Tell me, if someone in that situation would have been carrying, do you actually think that many people would have died.

So, I have given you one, here is another.

A congressman in the US that pushes for gun control and stated that guns should be banned, shot a home intruder recently. Do you think the congressman believes that everyone should be disarmed, or just you worthless eaters?

Come on folk. These are some simple questions. How bout answering.

Originally posted by area6

We are going to see privatization on a scale like never before.

Exactly...this goes to the heart of the matter, and that's where the fun is really going to begin. If we think we're seeing abuse now, just wait until this happens...and it will.

Less oversight and control. Just like the PMCs in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In fact, some of this is already starting, and what we're seeing now is more PDs hiring exactly the people who were PMC over there, and much of their attitude springs from there.

Support what you have now or suffer far worse consequences in the future. You were warned.

Perhaps you don't remember but a few years ago they gave out additional federal money to hire 50 or 100 thousand new police officers. I think this is just the result of federal funds drying up. Things will just go back to where they were before the hirings.
I don't believe the amount of police have any effect on the number of crimes committed, just the number of cases solved and tried.

reply to post by silent thunder


Yes it will, and I wrote a 2 page post before I realized I was rambling on about scenario situations that rambled way off topic, I erased and restarted the post.
Boondock made an excellent point that we can police the world just not our own country.
This will bring on new problems also, as the power gap divides there will be more have not’s than haves.
This includes low end government officials in the have not category.
People who still live the life inside government ruled world but are having a hard time coping as they are closer to the poor than they are to the ruling party.
These people will continue to strive for the top of the ladder but will simply never reach it.
These people will be some of the most dangerous as they have the protection of the government but may not be above taking what you have.
More and more people in the have not category will see this and this will lead to a larger problem in the way of anarchy.

Don't get distracted from the real issues.

Think of it this way. The police in general are still one of the few remaining unions in this nation...have the few remaining good pension plans. They must therefore go. They're just next on the hit list. And you might be helping.

But what you will get as a result is a privatized police with far less oversight and far more of the very thing you despise. If you think the corruption is bad now (and it is), just wait. Again, careful what you wish for.

The same stuff is coming to the UK, maybe not quite on the same scale but definately in proportion to what is happening in the USA.
We already have a lack of respect for the Police (ref that Bloody stupid R. Moat facebook page) and authority in general.... Some areas in the inner cities are well known now as NO-GO areas after dark .....

The Police are only a small part of the issue here..... if people want to live in a civalized society then we cannot afford the way society is currently SET-UP.
Salaries of many people FAR EXCEED their worth and personal wealth has been accrued at the expense of a Society.....

I also believe there should be a 'CAP' on annual income FOR ALL - sounds wacky I know but who really needs to earn more than $1 million or £1 million pounds per year REALLY ????

Only when wealth is more fairly distributed and Governed Accordingly will these future issues be resolved...... Until then .... who knows....

Regards

PurpleDOG UK

My Opinion

Good Riddance to Bad rubbish Police are all criminals anyhow I bet there will be less crime.

Stuff has been stolen from me, I've been assaulted but you don't hear me complaining to some higher authority.

Anytime there are budget cuts in local government, police and firemen are always the first mentioned. People react much the way several have acted here with gloom and doom. It's a publicity stunt to get attention to raise taxes.

When push comes to shove, the street workers and parks will be cut long before the police and fire are really touched. When police are let go, it's usually because the federal funding for those positions have run out. You saw it under Bush/Clinton then Clinton/Bush. Now the Homeland Security grants are running out from Bush and Obama hasn't made an effort to extend them.

Many of these layoff positions were funded from Homeland Security drug intervention programs lasting 3 to 5 years at a time. Part of the war on drugs and extending Clinton's vision of 100,000 new police which Bush endorsed also. These positions have had federal funding for up to 10 years (several grant periods) with no local taxes going to pay for them. Now that federal funding has run dry local taxes aren't there to pay for them.

Last week, Oakland had their big headline of cutting officers and not responding to crime. The city is still there and no more national news coverage, so it must be working, otherwise; the media would be screaming for a bailout.

As for unleashing anarchy and mayhem, I'm waiting until November.

The cuts in the UK are forcing some of our police services to make cuts of 25% to their budgets. It would appear the next few years will be a good time to be a criminal in the UK, especially with courts handing out fewer jail terms. I'm not advocating criminality here, just pointing out if there are fewer police and fewer jail terms being handed out, there is bound to be more crime.

Originally posted by hinky
Anytime there are budget cuts in local government, police and firemen are always the first mentioned. People react much the way several have acted here with gloom and doom. It's a publicity stunt to get attention to raise taxes.

When push comes to shove, the street workers and parks will be cut long before the police and fire are really touched. When police are let go, it's usually because the federal funding for those positions have run out. You saw it under Bush/Clinton then Clinton/Bush. Now the Homeland Security grants are running out from Bush and Obama hasn't made an effort to extend them.

Many of these layoff positions were funded from Homeland Security drug intervention programs lasting 3 to 5 years at a time. Part of the war on drugs and extending Clinton's vision of 100,000 new police which Bush endorsed also. These positions have had federal funding for up to 10 years (several grant periods) with no local taxes going to pay for them. Now that federal funding has run dry local taxes aren't there to pay for them.

Last week, Oakland had their big headline of cutting officers and not responding to crime. The city is still there and no more national news coverage, so it must be working, otherwise; the media would be screaming for a bailout.

As for unleashing anarchy and mayhem, I'm waiting until November.

Excellent points! I think there must be some massive taxes in the works!
All the more reason to own a gun!
Protect yourself and family.

Nothing like a budget cut on the police force to kill 2 birds with one stone.

Stone 1:

As more police officers are laid off, the remaning best know which side their bread is buttered and better toe the line. It aint from our side for sure even though tax payers paid them. It will be the side of TPTB that controls the taxpayers and everyone else.


Stone 2:

Be afraid...Be very afraid...There is not enough police officers around to protect you, the common people...get on your knees and start begging TPTB to take away the fears....fears for your self and your loved ones.....

In the end, TPTB wins again..big time!