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Gulf Oil Disaster Illusion staged by BP/Media/Government?

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posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 12:31 AM
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Good points, got my attention. I'm gonna through my thoughts into the mix. Earlier post someone asked "where is the oil coming from then"? I'm thinking they shipped it out there on the boats and instead of suckin it up they are pumpin it out? Question in the OP's post he referred to sea lions swimming through the oil gusher? I dont know the answer to this but can sea lion's swim that deep? I know sharks, marlin and many others can just never heard of sea lions that deep? I'v been watching the cams late at night lately and two nights ago i was watching one of them at about 3am and I swear the depth on the screen said 234ft? I always check the depth when I watch and they are always in the 4500-5k range .... I dismissed it till I read this thread...What about the whale fail boat? The one outside boat that bp/govt had to allow in the spill area due to the risk of getting ruined by the MSM, test showed inconclusive? BS.... I dug deeper and the truth is the oil wasn't thick enough for it to be effective.... So either the dispersants are holdin it under the water (likely) or there isnt enough oil or its a eco friendly semi safe highly refined oil being pumped outa those ships? And its a little odd that all the oil u see is in streaks like it would look like if it were being pumped out of a ship? All the other spills are big round pools of thick #.... Also kinda funny how the Euros outlawed this core exit # but for some unknown reason the U'S allows them to pump millions of gallons of it? cmon.... Also funny how its the one chemical that holds the supposal %99 of the spill underwater outa sight? Guess thats why the MSM is always saying we are only seeing %1 of the spill! I must say for a spill thats 20 times PLUS the size of the vadez if you compare onshore damage and footage from the spill there's really no comparison.... But who knows maybe its coming? My 2cents




posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 12:33 AM
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Something seems to be strange to me. First it's this, then it's that, now you can't see and your'e not allowed in but everything is OK, then how many tries later they still have leaks from the sea floor. Soon I will have an inside source on site and will be able to get some good intel.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by westcoast
If anything, it is so much worse than they can ever let us know.


Then why does Doug Suttles, BP Chief Operating Officer of Exploration and Production, (who incidentally used to work for Exxon in Alaska for eight years before joining BP as president of BP Exploration (Alaska) Inc), have to take his oiled beach pictures from the Exxon disaster in Alaska, where he used to work, and post them on his website as coming from the Gulf? Is that because the pictures in the Gulf would have been, as you say, “so much worse than they can ever let us know” that he had to post up oil disaster pics from Alaska, that don’t look as bad, and tell people that they're from the Gulf?

No Real person on this forum will buy that.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Alethea
I suppose they have achieved what they intended by spraying the Corexit on us and in our water. I just wonder if the reaction will be soon enough for them, or if they get impatient that we don't die quick enough maybe they will nuke.


Maybe that’s why you hear a lot of them in the deep water disaster forum talking about potential huge methane explosions or the possible need to nuke… they could set off a nuke and say it was a methane explosion… that could be their back up plan if they can’t spray them out with the corexit... there's no telling what these sick freaks will do... it's just another day at the office



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 12:44 AM
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Oh, I agree with you that we are intentionally being mislead and they are covering something up. Their beavior and the behavior of our government is just too wierd.

I just don't think/or see the gain in staging this.

As for the picture, I can't speak to that. It certainly isn't enough for me to believe the oil spill is faked, but I agree it is one more odd thing in all of this.

As to the divers. If those were actually divers next to the BOP that we are suposed to believe to be at the bottom of the ocean, than obviously we are looking at something else. IF that is true, than this tells me that they don't want us to see the real one.

I think your post is an interesting one, and worth thinking about. I think it has some very valid points as to the 'wierdness' of this whole fiasco.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by bair1975
Question in the OP's post he referred to sea lions swimming through the oil gusher? I dont know the answer to this but can sea lion's swim that deep?


You must mean the eels… “Most eels prefer to dwell in shallow waters or hide at the bottom layer of the ocean, … [but] Some eels dwell in water as deep as 4,000 metres (13,000 ft)” . en.wikipedia.org...


Originally posted by bair1975
I'v been watching the cams late at night lately and two nights ago i was watching one of them at about 3am and I swear the depth on the screen said 234ft?


This is what we all gotta do... keep an eye on these scumbags... they may of slipped up... I can tell you for almost certain, if there’s a huge slip up in that live BP "up to the minute thread", showing divers playing underwater polo beside the BOP, you probably wont hear about it.



Originally posted by bair1975
What about the whale fail boat?


Here’s my theory on the Taiwanese “A Whale” boat:

It would seem plausible that the reason why the "A Whale" is not used is not only because there’s no oil, but because they are not insiders. Only the insiders are allowed in the area. Only the insiders are allowed to know what's really going on. Information from the area must be totally controlled... they wouldn't allow outsiders (Taiwanese) to leak out info about how bad (OR NOT BAD) things really are out there.

Now if the “A Whale” were really to go on the seen (and they could say it's on the seen for appearances) how would the crew be controlled to assure that they would not leak out information about what is really going on out there to the rest of the world? How would they get them to keep their mouths shut once they go back home to Taiwan? How would they be sure that ALL cameras on the “A Whale” were not being used to record the scene? They’re quite capable of doing that to the local fisherman in the area by controlling their weekly pay checks and observing them to make sure they don’t have cameras, but that may not be the way it works with a large foreign operated vessel. It would be very close to impossible to assure that they keep their traps shut and to ban their video equipment… I can imagine a ship of this size needs video equipment working around the clock just to operate.


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posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by coldfiremx
Something seems to be strange to me. First it's this, then it's that, now you can't see and your'e not allowed in but everything is OK, then how many tries later they still have leaks from the sea floor. Soon I will have an inside source on site and will be able to get some good intel.


With all the info that I've observed and pieced together, If someone on this forum said ... "I live 2 blocks from the beach and it's covered in oil" I wouldn't believe them.

There's just too much disinfo out there. One thing I think they've learned from 911 is the power of blogs and, especially, youtube vids... they're makin their own youtube vids now and passing them off as coming from local folks... As a previous poster pointed out... they are magicians



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by westcoast
As for the picture, I can't speak to that. It certainly isn't enough for me to believe the oil spill is faked, but I agree it is one more odd thing in all of this.


That pic is good enough for me... it comes right from his website: www.dougsuttles.com...

We gotta be like detectives... He used to work for Exxon and BP in Alaska
He takes a pic (and probably more than one) from his Exxon Valdez disaster archives and posts it on his website and tries to pass it off as being from the Gulf.

You don't need more than that... except a little common sense. And of course they believe that the "smoole peephole" have none.

Here's a pic of a sea otter one poster tried to pass off as coming from the gulf even though there are no sea otters in the Gulf hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...

Now you piece a little of this with a little of that and it becomes more and more convincing... and because of all that I've pieced together I am 95% certain. I still could be wrong because no one can get in there to see with their own eyes.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by soleprobe]



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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when it comes to money anything is possible, or changing the flow of it.
the reason this was done was to get undersiables off of welfare I really don't buy into that theory
The percentage is too small to even worry about, new legaslation would be far more effective, look how much money was generated by 911, yes the whole thing stinks. Than you have the toxic stew to deal with as well,
build casino land around the gulf your still going to get rift raft undesirables

This has to be bigger for faking an oil spill or covering it up keeping everyone away just to incite a fuel tax, a fuel tax that hinders oil companies, how does BP come out smelling like roses.

What's bigger than a fuel tax, a casino strip land and some undesiables



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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That is not Doug Suttles website with the pic on it. It has an ad on it for an oilspill lawsuit. It also has a video with the description that Hayward and Suttles need to come clean about what is happening. I don't think these would be there if it were honestly his website.

I recently took some of my grandkids to a beach where there were signs posted everywhere by the Dept of Health and Hospitals. They said don't swim due to high bacteria counts. Don't ya know there were people swimming anyway. This may be a reason BP has been keeping the coasts so guarded so that people who insist on disregarding what they are told is best for them don't get harmed. I can just imagine the mess there would be with all these people in their boats trying to go sightseeing in the gulf like you see hawkers do at the scene of an accident.

You have your right to your opinion. While I see many things not right with this I have no doubts that the oil is there and has made a big mess of the coastline here and cost a lot of people their jobs.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by SinsMayburn
When not working, they must stay in boats. Not any nice boat with a great view. Its a small industrial boat used for commercial fishing. The deck is closed off. So when not working, they are limited to this boat, and that is all. Most of the shifts are at night.


I’m going to sum up what you said in my own interpretation in order to put a clearer image as to what is going on. BP, the media and the government have high tech electronic imagery to spread their lies and propaganda and all we have is words… so I’m gonna use them:

Just before daylight the workers are forced like animals and locked into the lower section of these industrial style boats without being able to see the daylight and what’s going on outside during the day.

I believe these same scumbags, the elitists, did that to the African slaves when they shipped them over here.

I must calm down…..


And then at night the bastards let them out onto the deck to work in the chemical soaked air without masks.... where it’s too dark to see that the only thing out there is water and poisonous chemicals. So they can work in the dark, get poisoned in the dark and then before the sun comes up they get crammed back into the industrial hole below and locked down after they had their dose of death out in the darkness.

I want all you scumbags, the NOT Real people out there who are seeing this post and are helping those bastards do what they are doing to your fellow human beings to take note: You’s better get a soul… and quick…. because there aint much time left for yas and all the little chump change you get for serving these sickos won’t save ya.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by LAinhabitant
That is not Doug Suttles website with the pic on it.


ya ..it just says www.dougsuttles.com... and it's not his website... and the pics are from Alaska where he used to work...

right

here they come....

[edit on 20-7-2010 by soleprobe]



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:08 AM
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I honestly don't think **** would lie to me about it if I asked questions, he already knows that I am questioning the events that have occured. When he gets pictures i'll tell him to get landmarks in the background and take pics of GPS coordinates. He won't be shipped out untill next month but I will at least get some pictures to post.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:15 AM
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Use your detective skills and carefully look and read the stories and ads on the page. Someone else has made that page about him. Why on earth would the man have a video on his own page stating he and Tony Hayworth need to come clean on what is happening?



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:20 AM
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The rigs are moving out 'cause they cost 500k a day to rent and the oil companies aren't gonna pay that for the next 6 months of standby while they can' t drill.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:21 AM
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Great... the mods moved this thread into the deepwater disaster forum... Why? this thread is about the conspiracy of NON-DISASTER..

There is no conspiracies about non-disasters here that's why it's called "Deepwater Disaster" forum...

Please put it back where it belongs. The non-disaster is pure conspiracy to the public... most haven't even heard of it whereas the "disaster" is treated as popular fact... non-disaster is conspiracy so this thread belongs in "General Conspiracies"

Thanks



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by LAinhabitant
Someone else has made that page about him.


Then your BP friend should sue him. I'm sure he'll get the support of the BP Deepwater Disaster forum.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by LAinhabitant
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Use your detective skills and carefully look and read the stories and ads on the page. Someone else has made that page about him. Why on earth would the man have a video on his own page stating he and Tony Hayworth need to come clean on what is happening?


I went to the site but zone alarm says its a dirty site and prevented it form poping up, says the site is new 3 months old and contains malware spyware viruses etc...



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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looks like it's time for my Allan Watt quote to give me some solace:

“There’s not a chat room out there or a forum that isn’t Top Heavy with agents.”

Of course it might get deleted because it's off topic when in actuality it's on topic in every sub forum on ATS



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by mr20121221
I went to the site but zone alarm says its a dirty site and prevented it form poping up, says the site is new 3 months old and contains malware spyware viruses etc...


Man... you guys are supporting BP


Totally exposed

site works for me www.dougsuttles.com...


The BP propaganda Disaster Forum




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