Originally posted by RogerT
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
Again you assume I live in the US after having been corrected in another thread. It's even in my avatar comments that I don't! I wonder what it
takes for you to hear someone who doesn't agree with you?
What does not being in the United States have to do with anything I've posted? PubMed is an international research repository, hence why there are
plenty of Japanese, Chinese, German, and Russian language journals, to name a few examples, stored there.
I asked specifically for the best example of a study due to lack of time - we aren't all glued to pubmed for a living, get over it! If you
like, I can just pick one, and if it turns out to be unsupportive of your claims, then I will discount the rest as equally garbage, hence my
requesting you pick the best one for the job.
So, what you're saying is, you're going to cherrypick the data, find one thing that you can counter with a whale.to or naturalnews.com article
, and then claim that your ONE point of contention invalidates ALL vaccine research and progress?
Wow, and you think [n]I am the one with a personal bias? Jesus Christ!
I can see you don't read my posts, but did you actually read any of the studies yourself
Yes to both of those questions. I've read your posts, and the studies. What of it?
As for the inaccessibility of your offered evidence: Is this your technique, post a bunch of links that don't actually lead to study data and
then claim you provided it? How do you think I should visit your public library to view these studies ... get on a plane tomorrow and fly half way
across the world?
The links I provided DO lead directly to the studies. You can view them there, or on the website of that specific journal. How exactly do you propose
I show you the studies, considering it is illegal (as I was once reminded by a mod on this board) to circumvent copyright law and post my own PDF copy
on the boards? Are you suggesting I should pirate the studies for you and distribute them for free?
Also, whichever country your in has free, public libraries and university libraries, and nearly all western nations with such libraries have extensive
journal subscription programs. Some libraries even allow you to access them through their website (e-journals) so long as you enter your library card
Even back home in Russia, our public libraries have wonderful journal subscriptions. Are you honestly telling me you have no libraries, no internet
access (which I KNOW is not true, in your case) no universities, and no medical schools in your area? Also, if you are just DYING to read research,
there is a nifty little box on the righthand side of the PubMed site where you can choose only to view free items. If you're in a pinch, this can
work, should you ever use this search engine in the future.
If you're going to comment on graphical data, perhaps you should post it first. All the charts I've seen, using full available data from
health departments in US, UK, Australia etc, clearly show NO STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT ACCELERATION of disease decline at vaccine
Polio Data and Charts
In the case of polio, you will see in this source that in 1952, there were 21,000 cases. The vaccine was introduced in 1955. In 1960, there were 2525
cases (an 88% drop), and in 1965 there were 61 cases (a 99.8% drop from 1952 and a 98& drop from 1960). Since 1979, there have been ZERO naturally
occurring cases of polio in the United States.
If you'll look a the first link, you'll notice that while polio cases did fluctuate year to year, they never did so beyond about 50%, often much
less. However, in 1955, we see an 88% decrease, followed by a quick tapering off, with cases being in the single digits within a decade of the
I suspect this post will be just as fruitless as all my others in debate with you. My experience is you make a lot of noise upfront but don't
care enough to follow through.
And my experience with you is that anytime I do follow through, you pretend that waving your hand and making a snide, off-topic comment makes all the
data go away. How puerile.
[edit on 7/21/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]