posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 10:05 AM
Originally posted by activeSeven
Originally posted by texas thinker
854,000 Top Secret Clearances? How the hell can anything that needs to be secret be safe from our enemies? That is amazing. I cannot begin to imagine
the cost. Let's see, those 854.000 employees alone, let's say make 100K annual on average (probably way way more) that would be 85,400,000,000 if my
math is right?
You're way wrong on this assumption you have made. I work for the DoD and have a clearance as well. That number stated is probably correct, however,
lets try not to get a running start before we jump to conclusions on this.
First, the assumption that "if you have a top secret clearance then you're in meetings all day being briefed on all the government secrets." This
is wrong, wrong, wrong. Typically it's the building itself that has the security clearance. For instance, the location I work in has a security
clearance. Now, every person that enters that building needs to have a security clearance that equals, or exceeds the clearance of the site. This
means, receptionists, janitors, cooks, interns etc. They ALL, need the clearance. Add to that, if you're a government contractor (which most are)
then their home office needs a clearance as well, which further adds to this number. So now all of the receptionists, administrative assistants,
accountants etc. in that office needs it as well. So as you can see, the number of 845,000 people is bloated, but most of all, it's misleading
because over 90% of those people need the clearance just to walk in the door to get to work, it DOES NOT mean that they are exposed to secret/top
And by the way, most of those people don't make anywhere near 100k.
I worked for Barksdale Air Force Base here in Shreveport/Bossier City Louisiana. I had a Top Secret SCI clearance. The highest without a need to know.
We had people that worked in my office with no clearance, Secret, SSI, SBI Top Secrets, etc. My location was considered "Secret", but we still had
janitors come in and clean without a clearance. Maybe where you work is different, but this is what I experienced. Also I was told when my clearance
was initially started it would cost the government 5-6 million to just investigate my clearance, which tool a full 13 months before I received it.
They go to your hometown, talk to all your friends, teachers, parents, relatives, anyone that you may have had contact with. Then when you renew your
clearance it costs from 1-2 million. TSgt Bullware was the guy who did all the clearances at Barksdale for the 2nd Communications Squadron and I got
this information directly from him. So sir, you are WRONG! I believe there are this many people with clearances that high and it is WAY TOO MANY
PEOPLE! The only thing is I had a TS/SCI but when you sit in meetings, if you don't have a "need to know" you get kicked out. I shadowed my
Commander once in 1999 and heard about AirStrikes in Kabul, Kosovo, etc that were never mentioned on National Television! So trust me, we do a lot of
bad # in the world. I can see why the Muslim Nation hates us "westerners" when all we do is try and take over there country. So you tell me, if a
tank was rolling down your street pointing guns at your kids, wouldn't you be pissed off???
2001, 2003, 2005, 2006 , 6 month tours, Afghanistan 1, Iraq 3, Convoy Duty 2006, I got out in 2007, did 10 years from 1997-2007, Iraq Convoy changed
my views and my life, thus I got out and now I fight against our "kids" going into the military. How the hell are they going to learn unless people
like me tell them the "reality" of the military.
I hope you have fun trying to come on here and spit "diss-information" because from my experiences I praise the Washington Post for standing up.
TSgt United States Air Force Honorably Discharged, now fighting the war against Terrorist America, Veteran Long live the REAL Americans!