Its clear that the guy shooting the video is an Air Force officer, probably the pilot, of another KC10 tanker.
The original video is a video of a fuel dump.
The KC-10 is one of the few airliners that can have problems meeting the FAR 25.119
specifications for weight on landing so it has built in dump systems. The FAA prohibits a aircraft from landing if its fuel load is above a certain
percentage of its weight, so pilots will dump fuel until they get the weight down low enough to make a safe landing.
The second video is that of contrails from the hot engine exhaust.
The videos are hoaxes posted by Air Force KC-10 officers for self-amusement.
The reason why the plane looks white instead of grey in the first video is due to sunlight glare, which can shine white in bright sunlight:
While I think it is a hoax, and I think you are on to something with how the video was taken. I don't think this is a fuel dump. Fuel Dumps come
from one outlet, not a bunch of outlets along the wingtip. Fuel Dumps get the fuel away from the aircraft as quickly as possible, they don't
"spray" it where it will get all over the fuselage and tail?
Also, Another DC10 would not be able to video from "above" and behind?
The video had to come from another type of aircraft or an aircraft with a bottom mounted camera. It was certainly shot on purpose and not
secretively. The filmed aircraft would have been abundantly aware of the chase plane, so this was part of an exercise or test flight.
So....Hoax...yes. Military aircraft...probably. Fuel Dump....NO.
Yes. It is not "chemtrail spraying"
No, it is not a fuel dump. This video shows a fuel dump. See how the fuel leaves the nozzle as a stream. The "chemtrail' video does not resemble
this in the least.
The "chemtrail" video shows aerodynamically induced contrails. You can see that they originate on the upper surface of the wing, not the trailing
edge. One of the guys talking in the video even mentions it.
Nice try but you will have to try harder next time!
here is a picture of a DC-10 doing a fuel dump!!!!
and here is the link to the source, scroll down around half the page for the picture! As can be clearly seen there are two small trails, meaning only
one thing, it's a chemtrail duck and cover!
Damn redbull posted the wrong picture!
[edit on 19/7/2010 by theregonnakillme]
Well if the pictures of the dc10 dumping fuel had not been taken off google pics i would be able to show you!
It's not 'FEAR MONGERING" it's humor. All the professionals I've talked to, the people who know about planes, fuel, weather, etc...the experts,
laugh about "chemtrailers" and thier paranoid delusions. They enjoy doing this kind of thing. Believe it or not, "chemtrailers" are a minority
fringe. Most people do not believe in them. To have pilots laughing about some idiot taking his video and claiming it's "proof' probably made
The only fearmongering are the doom and gloom sector, those insisting it's poison pharmaceuticals spread to dumb-down, zombify, and sicken the
populace by invading reptilians from Nibiru, who work their nefarious planes with TPTB elite Masonic Bilderberger despots running the US military, all
while trying to stop global warning, making rain, using earthquakes as weapons.
It's the ultimate debunk. Take a video of something you KNOW the ins and outs of, post it with as little information as possible, and watch all the
nutters claim it as "proof" of their conspiracy. I've done it myself, although sudden illness didn't allow me the reveal. It was a reply to all
the "magic eye" people who say you can "see" the difference in a trail. I had six powdery white substances, showed each to the camera, put it on
a turntable, spun it and asked for everyone's opinion which one was flour. But I kept filming, uninterupted for a reveal, then got sick and was
hospitalized. I had people say they could see the flour clearly. WRONG!!! I had a can of rose dust insecticide in the flour bag, so there was no
flour. My point was you can't see anything, you must test to determine what the chemical make-up of anything unknown really is.
I was off the internet while in hospital, and laughed at each guess a week later. And pulled it because it seemed too late to reveal.
This pilots are doing the same thing.
Chemtrailers were wrong, but they will believe anything if it supports their theory.
I wouldn't call it the ultimate debunk, maybe the ultimate arrogance.
As if any "expert" knows everything that is going on in the skies. I don't know who you are talking about when you are talking about these lunatic
chemtrailers, I suppose ME.
Does it occur to you that this is an insult? Grouping people that question, and yes, believe that some kind of spraying COULD very well be going on,
with paranoid and delusional imbeciles is very narrow-minded.
I still wonder, why the effort? To me, if you really feel this way, isn't it sort of like making fun of the retarded in class to get laughs?
Who really owns the high ground? Not those that hold others up for ridicule, sister.
Yep, me. And meteorologists, climatologists, pilots, air traffic controllers, aviation technicians, refuelers, aviation engineers, atmospheric
scientists, aviation scientists, chemists......and a very large percentage of the general population of the globe.
We all know contrails can persist for the same reasons clouds can, that there is nothing smaller than hail that is going to fall out of the sky from
flight altitudes, know what weather is, and can remember watching planes leave trails when they were kids.
No, it is not the same. Developmentally challenged people have no choice. "Chemtrailers" MAKE a choice to disregard all the science and
Arrogance, no. I openly admit debunking is somewhat of a hobby, and I laugh at what is presented as "proof" everyday. I've learned much more than
I already knew about the atmosphere, aviation, and research using the internet. I've chosen to learn about what these videos show, not just
I've chosen to KNOW the how and why, not just believe in the possibilities.
To "debunk" Chemtrailers, you must first KNOW chemtrailers. Your description of us was wholly inaccurate.
Next, you must KNOW about EVERY existing or past spraying operation, the goddess of spraying operations as it were.
Or, I suppose you could say, that there has NEVER been a spraying operation?
So tell me, how many have there been, and for how long have they been doing it, and where have they occurred, and by whom?
That would be a good start for a "debunker".
Originally posted by stars15k
But I kept filming, uninterupted for a reveal, then got sick and was hospitalized. I had people say they could see the flour clearly. WRONG!!! I
had a can of rose dust insecticide in the flour bag, so there was no flour.
Did the insecticide cause your sudden illness?
Or do you remember?
Just seems to me like it is a very likely cause/connection.
If it was the rose dust insecticide that made you sick, I will make sure to remember to avoid that stuff in the future.
Thanks for the tips, I am curious to know what happened there.
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