The morbid look behind nursery rhymes.

Here I will share with you some of the most morbid, depression nursery rhymes I could find or remember. The pattern of morbid, violent and graphic nursery rhymes is quite a bothering trend and I am quite surprised I never had night mares as a child (at least I can remember).

Jack and Jill
“Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water.
Jack fell down and broke his crown and Jill came tumbling after”

Humpty Dumpty
“Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again!”

Rock-a-Bye Baby
“Rock a bye baby on the tree top,
When the wind blows the cradle will rock,
When the bough breaks the cradle will fall,
And down will come baby, cradle and all.“

There was an Old Woman
“There was an old woman who lived in a shoe.
She had so many children, she didn’t know what to do.
She gave them some broth,Without any bread,
Whipped them all soundly, and sent them to bed.”

Goosey Goosey Gander
“Goosey goosey gander where shall I wander,
Upstairs, downstairs and in my lady’s chamber
There I met an old man who wouldn’t say his prayers,
I took him by the left leg and threw him down the stairs.”

Peter, Peter Pumpkin Eater
“Peter Peter pumpkin eater,
Had a wife and couldn’t keep her!
He put her in a pumpkin shell,
And there he kept her very well!”

Ladybird, Ladybird, Fly Away Home
“Ladybug ladybug fly away home, your house in on fire and your children are gone,
All except one and that’s little Ann, for she crept under the frying pan.”

Oh My Darling, Clementine
“Oh my darling, oh my darling,
My darling Clementine,
You are lost for me forever,
Dreadful sorry, Clementine.

Drove she ducklings to the water
Ev’ry morning just at nine,
Hit her foot against a splinter,
Fell into the foaming brine.

Ruby lips above the water,
Blowing bubbles soft and fine,
But alas, I was no swimmer,
Neither was my Clementine.

In a churchyard near the canyon,
Where the myrtle doth entwine,
There grow rosies and some posies,
Fertilized by Clementine.”

*This video contains language*

Oh please somebody post some Andrew Dice Clay...!
Little Miss Muffet
Sat in a tuffet
Eating her curds and whey
Along came a spider who sat down beside her
And said:
Whats in the bowl Bitch?


[edit on 19-7-2010 by Danbones]

hello Neutron

S&F for the thread.. because we almost forgot that they use subliminal tactics on us everyday and that have started right after we opened our eyes to the world for the first time .... simply digusting

how can we control childrens minds if we dont do it right from the start
its like cartoons.. when they grow up...
it start from the nursery.. right after you are born
they wants to put images and words in our head so in the futur we agree on the same topic

this is a tool to mass-control the public futures opinions
we need many more exemple to this
that children are affected by politics right after they are born

nice foes list by the way

[edit on 7/19/2010 by Ben81]

Ring a ring o'roses, a pocketful of posies, atishoo, atishoo, all fall down

About the plague. Nice

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hi Ben81, I thought I would take you off it. I went on a midnight foe'ing spree.

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Haha. He was right, I always thought (as a kid) that he literally broke his crown.

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ahahah its ok..i was not mad at all trust me
i would have understand it lol
i can have heavy words and statements sometimes... i know

looking foward to debate and discuss with you more my friend

there is nothing sinister about humpty dumpty, i can't remember the exact details but basically there was a siege and the castle had a huge cannon that they named humpty dumpty which was hit by opposing cannon fire and "fell off the wall" and broke but being the size it was couldn't be repaired and the rhyme came about so people could relay the message as they didn't have newspapers ot the internet.

aha found a link i was nearly right
rhymes

[edit on 19/7/2010 by Anthony Massey]

Even alot of the original childrens stories were sinister, the original little mermaid she died, red riding hood to name a few... and a lot if not all of the brother grimm stories. Then there is one rhyme that I don't really remember about a bird murdering another bird, and there is another ryhme I have to look it up again, but I'm pretty sure its about canablisim.

Gods people, nursery rhymes were hard because when they were written life was hard. Once upon a time you had these harsh stories to teach lessons. Since modern society has sanitized everything can we honestly say people are better? Most fairy tales were regional stories until the Brothers Grimm collected them and released them in print in the 1800's. Nothing more sinister then parents looking for a way to scare kids straight.

On a random note I like Kitty-Cthulhu, or shall it be called Cathulu.

But yeah anyways, stories, and ryhmes where harsh back then its just like our parents talking about the boogeyman.

[edit on 7/19/2010 by Jedite]

My take on Ring around the rosy:

Ring around the Rosy.
(a rosy was a skin disruption/lesion, similar to a boil and symptomatic of the plague). When a "ring" developed around it: it was septic/blood poisoning.

Pockets full of posies.
(The stench was so horrible from death and sickness, people and doctors carried flower petals in their pockets, to try and deal with the smell).

Upstairs, downstairs, all fall down.
(People were droping dead all over the place).

Why why why? Why do this to children? They must surely have all been traumatized.



[edit on 7/19/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

Also posies were thought to help fight against the "Evil Wind" (The Plague itself) so many people not just doctors carried them in their pockets. Also another phrase is uses instead of upstairs downstairs, is ashes ashes we all fall down, was because there was so manye dead they were just being burned in a pit.

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that description kind of gave me chills

4 & 20 black birds ryhme was originally a pirate recruitment tool.

Sadly need to add second line.

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I know. Creepy. This was taught in some English Lit class somewhere. Just touched on--- But as the other poster said, I have also heard "Ashes, Ashes, all fall down", too. For the reasons he gave.

It's a very nasty little piece. There was a description of the physicians leaving the home, and people piling up the dead, while the children were outside chanting this very "poem". yitch.

That must have been such a horrible, horrible time.

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Nice thread.

Posted one similar to it last year,was in July also.Spooky. lol.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I still go with ring a ring a roses,not being about/from the plague.

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Never thought of it this way, Romanian nursery rhymes aren't as bad, but most of the stories told are about dragons (zmei - in our culture dragons rarely had just one head, they were more like a cross between a hydra and a man), they were supposed to be scary so that the child would either fall asleep or be too afraid of running about in the night.

there is no conspiracy, the problem is with what society thinks today. A stupid song is a stupid song, just because I listen to I song I will not go buy a gun then use it to torture a man and feed him to all his friends as a soup. This comes from people being stupid.

Stop blaming old songs for being screwed up. The rhymes are hundreds of years old and they never hurt anyone, they were meant to save lives. And anyway what is cooler a rhyme about the plague of one about a stupid bee on a stupid flower, boring rhymes were lost because no one was interested.

We aren't saying they cause people to go do things, least I'm not. I think we're just saying even the most lighthearted innocent thing, has shades and shadows of darkness. Plus alot of rhymes weren't even started by children they were codes for things going on in adults daily life that they couldnt openly talk about.

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Hickiory dickory dock....sum chick wuz........