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Get Your Permit: Silver Iodide Weather Modification is REAL

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posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return

Myself, I have never seen a story about weather modification going on right now in the mainstream media, I actually read the Bejing story here on ATS I think.


I think this is more a reflection on US media. It was quote a big story in Britain at the time.



I never see stories about this going on a regular basis in for instance Texas.



Same again.

The Indian and Australian media cover the issue when it affects their countries. Cloud seeding doesn't take place in Britain, but our media cover the use of it and its effects in other countries - especially Russia and China.




posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Invisible King
Don't worry guys. They have our best interests at heart.


Well, in most cases (in the USA anyway) it seems to be the best interests of their bank accounts. I'm sure Winter Park Resort in Colorado don't pay for cloud seeding for purely alturistic reasons
Though I'n sure the skiers who use the resort have no objections!



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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Your point was exactly that, that if a lot of people do not know about certain knowledge, then it is being hidden. Now you are making up new requirements - hence moving the goalposts.


False as usual.

I said the info doesn't reach the masses. I said that it was there for those that look for it.

You just make up stuff all the time.




So cloud seeding is being forced upon you? Of all the kinds of pollution you encounter in your day, I am guessing silver iodide is not part of it.


I don't know if it is forced upon me, but it sure it's forced upon people that live in sprayed areas.

Again a fallacy, we weren't talking about other exposure to other chemicals.

Your analogy of calculus sucks because calculus is not something sprayed above your head by the government without your consent or even knowledge.

Double speak and divertion is all you are interested in.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by firepilot
 





Just because you have not seen something, does not mean it is secret or suppressed


I specifically searched for it on 3 major mainstream news outlets, and found only the one Bejing story in their histories of years.

Like I said, much of it doesn't reach the masses, and the possible implications most certainly don't.


Try Google

MWSS to facilitate 3M cloud-seeding operation

Do cloud seeding this year too, corporators tell BMC


Cloud seeding is a way to reduce the size of hail stones


Mount Shasta to address cloud seeding, plant ban

4 different papers on 4 different countries running current cloud seeding stories

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posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return

I never see stories about this going on a regular basis in for instance Texas.



Now really????

www.kxan.com...

www.mysanantonio.com...

www.mysanantonio.com...

Here is on ABC national news
abcnews.go.com...

amarillo.com...

www.connectamarillo.com...

Even the Edward Aquifer Authority has it prominently
www.edwardsaquifer.net...

Going to continue with your assertion its NEVER on the news in Texas?? This whole meme that its suppressed and hidden, is just utter folly. Make up a new one.

Apparently, its all out there and can quickly be found.I could have easily found a lot more articles too.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:41 PM
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And these are sites that reach the masses?

I don't think so. It's funny you've been searching and couldn't even find a site that an average ATS poster has heard of before, let alone an unsuspecting member of the masses.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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I said the info doesn't reach the masses. I said that it was there for those that look for it


Thats just some assertion you all will continue with until the end of time. Look at all the links for newspaper articles, and local tv news shows. Isnt that the defintion of news for the masses? You would not be satisfied unless it was the lead story for every news channel.

And actually in one of the foreign countries I flew on, it was one of the lead stories in the news, because the President there wanted all the credit for it, and would show a crude map where any thunderstorm seeding happened that day.

Well if you are so up in arms about it being forced upon people and deadly, then get off your computer and go protest. Why not organize a protest at flight schools, or airports that have cloud seeding aircraft, or companies that do it.

Many of these places that have have weather mod programs, have to have public meetings on in it. Again something for the masses. Why not go attend one of those and give them the conspiracy view of it all.

Is it state environmental agencies that permit this. So tell him how you know more than they do



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Who more important to hear about cloud seeding operations that the communities in which they occur? What better way to let them know about it than local news?

Do you think the upcoming county farm fair should also be broadcast on CNN?



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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Going to continue with your assertion its NEVER on the news in Texas?? This whole meme that its suppressed and hidden, is just utter folly. Make up a new one.


I said I never see stories like that in the mainstream news, about spraying programs, in for intance Texas.

I didn't say it was never on the news in Texas. keep twisting.

Apperently attention is being given on a local level, and also, people seem to be against it.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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And yet another story, this is a new one and with video Its on the CBC - Canadian Broadcasting Company, and is about the hail suppression project

www.cbc.ca...

[edit on 20-7-2010 by firepilot]



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Point of No Return
 


Who more important to hear about cloud seeding operations that the communities in which they occur? What better way to let them know about it than local news?

Do you think the upcoming county farm fair should also be broadcast on CNN?


Jeah, got a point there, I didn't realize these sites were talking about activity in the local area they are based in themselves.

Still they are just announcing it and not talking about the possible consequences and dangers.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return
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Going to continue with your assertion its NEVER on the news in Texas?? This whole meme that its suppressed and hidden, is just utter folly. Make up a new one.


I said I never see stories like that in the mainstream news, about spraying programs, in for intance Texas.

I didn't say it was never on the news in Texas. keep twisting.

Apperently attention is being given on a local level, and also, people seem to be against it.


Umm, those links were exactly mainstream news. When you said you never see news articles, you were implying there are not any, that was the only possibly point you were making, about never seeing any.

Well apparently you arent very good at finding these stories, if I can find them in a matter of seconds. This is less about the news and stories being out there, its just that you did not see them.

The whole point some of you have been making, is that these projects were not in the news. Its been pointed out ad infinitum, with links to news websites, newspaper articles, magazines, tv news shows, tv programs, and its never enough of it, or its not the right kind of news to satisfy any of you.

I think you just want one of those hot reporter babes to come to your house and give you the news in person




posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return

Still they are just announcing it and not talking about the possible consequences and dangers.


Well actually those meetings and such are open for public comment, and even sometimes up for a vote.

But there have been many environmental studies done for this, and these projects still require environmental impact statements too

www.weathermodification.org...

There is a whole list of academic studies. I am not saying there is no impact, because anything has an impact. Driving your car has an impact, as using electricity.

And here is a 59 page impact study for a california project

www.mcwra.co.monterey.ca.us...



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Quick summary: people have been trying to cause rain by seeding clouds. Initially, there were experiments with dry ice, but now silver iodide is the preferred seeding agent. No-one has ever denied this. It is covered regularly in the local press. There may or may not be grounds to question the environmental impact of the process. Silver is considered to be an environmental toxin in large concentrations, but silver iodide is not on the EPA's list of priority pollutants. If you don't want them seeding clouds in your neighborhood, write city hall. If you turn blue, you may have argyria, if you don't, the silver will probably be excreted in a few days. Does that cover everything? Oh, yes, the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety uses an alphabetic classification for toxins. "Class C" is used for oxidation hazards. Aquafornia's correspondent = FAIL.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Wolfenz
 


Wolfenz....poor, poor Wolfenz...what to do? What to do???

Oh, I know...try to read the thread!! Because, otherwise -----



See?!? You made Jean Luc cry! Bad Wolf! Bad Wolf! No bone for you!


What Poor Poor Weedwhacker never having a real thought that it not just Silver Iodine but other Chemicals that is being sprayed out there! !

ya i knew the Silver Iodine ! was the most Plot in this thread!!

do some research about Chem Trails !! Bio Trails ! And Military Chaff ing!!!!!!! look and see what the Materials for Military Chaffing ! Are

no wait ill show you !

Public and federal agencies concerned about the potentially harmful or undesirable effects of chaff on the environment




CHAFF: Aluminum Coated Fibreglass particulates CHAFF Corridor: A continuous three-dimensional stratum of CHAFF, laid by aircraft, and from 15 to 50 miles in length





Aluminum, because of its electrical conductivity, low cost, low weight, and durability, has been a consistent ingredient in chaff. In the 1980s, the cost of chaff was further reduced by replacing solid aluminum with hair-like silica glass fibers with a thin aluminum coating. Chaff was once produced using lead, and the Air Force still has some chaff containing lead in its inventory. According to the manufacturer, chaff containing lead was last manufactured in 1987. The proportion of lead in chaff dropped from about 1.2 ounces (7.5 percent) per pound in the 1950s to 0.16 ounces (1 percent) by 1987.


WOW LEAD!!!! You See that Wacker! Amazing Could they still be using lead ? as there saying to the public it no longer in use .. what could they also be using ! besides Aluminum ..

www.californiaskywatch.com...


Chaff is a strong radar reflector usually made of small glass fibers coated in zinc

Health Effects of Zinc ...
www.lenntech.com...

Health Effects of Silver Iodide
(pdf)
www.espimetals.com...
www.sciencelab.com...

Right from this site Do you like breathing and drinking Silver Iodide?
www.abovetopsecret.com...



if not Chem trails Bio trails is it possible that some kind of countermeasure besides CHAFF & Silver Iodide that the public don't know about ...

ohh Fiber Glass
TECHNICAL BRIEFING PAPER:
HEALTH EFFECTS FROM EXPOSURE TO
FIBROUS GLASS, ROCK WOOL, OR SLAG WOOL
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Public Health Service
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
www.atsdr.cdc.gov...

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[edit on 20-7-2010 by Wolfenz]



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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Umm, those links were exactly mainstream news. When you said you never see news articles, you were implying there are not any, that was the only possibly point you were making, about never seeing any.


Local news is not mainstream. and I never implied that these stories weren't on the Texas news, I implied that stories of spraying programs like the one in Texas never get coverage in the mainstream news, nationwide and international news.

I already explained that.

I do admit that it seems to get more attention on a local level, but as long as it stays on the local news it doesn't seem so widespread as it appears to be.

The whole point that started this side discussion was that most people don't know about weater mod., or may have heard of it but don't know the specifics and don't care.

I still stand by that statement.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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Why don't the main stream news companies put the weather modification news in with the weather forecast? just a thought....

[edit on 20-7-2010 by steven barnes]



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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seeding clouds over england which is very well known for its rainy weather and being cloudy?

[edit on 20-7-2010 by steven barnes]



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by steven barnes
Why don't the main stream news companies put the weather modification news in with the weather forecast? just a thought....

[edit on 20-7-2010 by steven barnes]


Because its not going to change the weather. Cloud seeding is not going to make it any hotter or colder, or change the odds of precipitation with certain amount. The biggest estimates of precip increase are by 10%, and thats when it is done correctly.

And TV station meteorologists are not part of cloud seeding projects anyways, and most of these projects are for rural areas like farmland, and mountain watersheds



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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so now it isn't important enough to be talked about?ozweather said it will have an effect of cooling and heating due to waves being trapped as like in normal cloud coverage and we've also amassed that this is mostly privatly done so we have no real idea of the scale because of the cross connection of infomation.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by steven barnes]MISTAKE

[edit on 20-7-2010 by steven barnes]




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