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Get Your Permit: Silver Iodide Weather Modification is REAL

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posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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AERIAL CHEM DUMPING IS REAL !!!! 1/5th of TEXAS IS ROUTINELY SPRAYED with silver iodide by air plane.

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IT HAPPENS

AIR PLANES OFTEN drop MASSIVE quantities of SILVER IODIDE, TRIMETHYL ALUMINUM, BARIUM, and PROPANE, into the SKY over large areas of North America, through state sponsored WEATHER MODIFICATION programs.

PERIOD.

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Todays top thread is:

» ATS Skunk Works »
www.abovetopsecret.com...
CLOSE-UP VIDEO: Pilot filming plane spraying into the air

350 replies where page after page people argue, lost in endless loops of obfuscation, insisting upon debunking chemtrails as a fantasy or proving them to be true. Now, I don't know whether that specific "CLOSE-UP VIDEO" is of a plane dropping chemicals. What I do know is: that spraying our skies with SILVER IODIDE is VERY REAL! On page 12 of that thread I posted the following response that was completely ignored by 5 more pages of "yes it is - no its not". The difference being, my unnoticed post WAS SOURCED, with OFFICIAL SOURCES.


without further introduction, my post from
page 12 of CLOSE UP VIDEO thread:

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For those of you that DO NOT THINK that weather modification and cloud seeding are REAL.

LOOK HERE for a fine AUTHORITATIVE, OFFICIAL example:

www.license.state.tx.us...
The Official STATE OF TEXAS weather modification ONLINE PERMITTING OFFICE:


Before I quote from them... first a quote from weedwhacker:


Originally posted by weedwhacker
We simply do not see ANYTHING of this nature and scope going on.




www.license.state.tx.us...
Currently, cloud-seeding projects designed to increase rainfall from convective cloud towers are conducted in nearly 31 million acres of Texas (or almost one-fifth of the state’s land area). In administering the Texas Weather Modification Act (enacted by the Texas Legislature in 1967), TDLR’s weather modification program issues licenses and permits for these projects, many of which have been in existence since 2000.


How's that for nature and scope?

Here's a link to the cloud seeding permit office in Colorado:

cwcb.state.co.us...

Kansas:

law.justia.com...

Oklahoma:

www.owrb.ok.gov...

North Dekota

www.swc.state.nd.us...

Nevada

www.dri.edu...

Montana

leg.mt.gov...



I could go on.... but you get the point.


Very Real. Very Official. It happens.

Get your head out of the clouds
and wipe the silver iodide away from your eyes,
on the way back down to reality.

www.weathermodification.com...


Whether you are looking for a small operation or a full program,
Weather Modification, Inc. can ensure your cloud seeding project runs smoothly.


yours,

Sri Oracle

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NOW DEBUNK THAT!

Don't come here to refute some specific photo.
Don't come to this thread to tell me whether or not chemtrails make you sick.

Lets settle this once and for all:

What is YOUR contention and why?

Regardless of whether the white lines in the sky are "chemtrails" or "contrails"....

DO, or do not, AIR PLANES drop large quantities of SILVER IODIDE, TRIMETHYL ALUMINUM, BARIUM, and PROPANE, into the SKY of North America, under the guise of state sponsored WEATHER MODIFICATION???

I SAY YES! It happens on a very large scale, very often, for whatever reason, it is very, very, very absolutely real.

Are there still any NAY's in the audience?

you?



[edit on 19-7-2010 by Sri Oracle]




posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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dont forget, their intention is not, "well, lets just poison the enviroment". it is a research to prevent weather disasters.


[edit on 19-7-2010 by icepack]

[edit on 19-7-2010 by icepack]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by icepack
dont forget, their intention is not, "well, lets just poison the enviroment". it is a research to prevent weather disasters.


So YEA or NAY?



DO, or do not, AIR PLANES drop large quantities of SILVER IODIDE, TRIMETHYL ALUMINUM, BARIUM, and PROPANE, into the SKY of North America, under the guise of state sponsored WEATHER MODIFICATION???



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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you have to have evidence that these people do the spraying to deliberate harm people. otherwise you got to stop a great amount of research, which is criticizable in the world today.
again, i dont see the intention of those people is evil in any way.


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posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Sri Oracle
 

you have to have evidence that these people do the spraying to deliberate harm people. otherwise you got to stop a great amount of research, which is criticizable in the world today.
again, i dont see the intention of those people is evil in any way.



He was debating wether they are spraying chemicals in the air deliberately with the intent to cause an effect, approved by the state.

As a lot of us already knew, they clearly are.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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My contention is not about whether this does or does not harm people. That is a more complex hypothesis to prove or disprove.

My contention is that IT HAPPENS; it is not a fantasy;

AIR PLANES DO drop large, dare I say unimaginably massive, quantities of SILVER IODIDE, TRIMETHYL ALUMINUM, BARIUM, and PROPANE, into the SKY of North America, under the guise of state sponsored WEATHER MODIFICATION.

agreed or disagreed?

is it the word "guise" you do not like?

Lets drop it for conversation purposes.


Lets modify the hypothesis thusly:

AND up the ante! (in italics)



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DO, or do not, AIR PLANES OFTEN drop MASSIVE quantities of SILVER IODIDE, TRIMETHYL ALUMINUM, BARIUM, and PROPANE, into the SKY over large areas of North America, through state sponsored WEATHER MODIFICATION programs???

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YEA or NAY?

Can we or can we not agree that IT HAPPENS ???


Sri Oracle

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Sri Oracle]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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DO, or do not, AIR PLANES drop large quantities of SILVER IODIDE, TRIMETHYL ALUMINUM, BARIUM, and PROPANE, into the SKY of North America, under the guise of state sponsored WEATHER MODIFICATION???


Do you have a source for this, I mean for these specific chemicals?

I must also add that these companies aren't using jumbo sized airplanes, more like Cesnnas and Pipers and such.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:44 PM
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MASSIVE quantities


dont you think, if people get ill above-average in the sprayed areas, this research would be stopped ?



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Silver Iodide used in cloud seeding is real? Wow, thanks for the news flash, and welcome to the 1950s.

Thats about the only part that you got right however.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Welll....since you put it like that.....FINE!


I am one of the Chemtrail debunkers, although I didn't bother posting on that thread. I have stopped wasting my breath, then again, nobody has ever started a thread quite like this one! Kudos for that!!

Now, I will still say that the vast majority of what people see is "Contrails" and not some chemical. I will also say that any useful amount of weather modification would occur at a much lower altitude, say 8000 agl or lower, probably more like 5000 ft agl. At that level, nobody will notice the "Chemtrails" and at anything higher the chemicals will be too dispersed and drift too far to be effective over a target area.

With all that said, I still appreciate a well layed out Thread, and soem excellent sources.

Star and Flag for you, even though I still think it is apples and oranges. "Chemtrails" people see in the sky still don't exist, they are seeing "Contrails." But, I can now fully admit that there is much more weather modification and chemicals being put into the air than what I was aware of!! And, I also see a connection with Silver Iodide and HAARP. Why else would they use Silver Iodide? Any number of cheaper chemicals would work for cloud seeding. Thanks for the eye opener.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Sri Oracle
 




MASSIVE quantities


dont you think, if people get ill above-average in the sprayed areas, this research would be stopped ?




What does this have to do with the OP, again he is not debating that.

Also, it's not research, these programs are being run with the intent of modifying weather, for instance preventing hail, making thicker snow packs, making more rain for irrigation etc.



[edit on 19-7-2010 by Point of No Return]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by icepack
dont you think, if people get ill above-average in the sprayed areas, this research would be stopped ?


Personally, I'm a tin hat wearer... I think making people mildly sick is the point / purpose... but that discussion is outside of the realm of this thread... there are many other places on ATS to discuss such.

"DOES IT HAPPEN?" is the point of this thread.



Point of No Return

Do you have a source for this, I mean for these specific chemicals?


Sure... there are plenty... just start here for example:

Controversial Experimental Weather Modification Bill in US Congress
www.globalresearch.ca...



Trimethyl Aluminum (TMA) and barium are just two of the toxic chemicals used in recent atmospheric heating and testing programs according to NASA.
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Many private weather modification companies admit that precipitation effects may be positive or negative. Fog dispersal programs, using dry ice, liquid nitrogen, liquid propane or silver iodide may improve visibility while adversely impacting Redwood Trees along the California coast by depriving them of needed water they derive from the fog.


There's all of them in one source.

Sri Oracle


[edit on 19-7-2010 by Sri Oracle]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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And where is this supposed thread and video.i would like to see it



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Thanks!


And judging from those links, larger jets are also used, and even c-130's. (wich are not jets)



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
Welll....since you put it like that.....FINE!

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Now, I will still say that the vast majority of what people see is "Contrails" and not some chemical.
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"Chemtrails" people see in the sky still don't exist, they are seeing "Contrails."

But, I can now fully admit that there is much more weather modification and chemicals being put into the air than what I was aware of!!
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Thanks for the eye opener.


I AGREE. Thank you.

Sri Oracle



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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thank you,if only people would stop ignoring and burrying such threads into the ground



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by firepilot
And where is this supposed thread and video.i would like to see it


First link in the OP, it wasn't working... now it is. My bad.



[edit on 19-7-2010 by Sri Oracle]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Sri Oracle
350 replies where page after page people insist upon debunking chemtrails as a fantasy.


Thing is Sri, if you read the thread, not one person is saying that weather modification isn't real.

Weather modification has been going on for years.

"Chemtrails" of the lines in the sky variety, born out of ignorance, paranoia and lies are a different subject altogether.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:22 PM
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Sorry, but that link you just put up is so full of nonsense. Fog dispersal is used at a few airports, but its not commonplace, nor is anyone (nor could anyone) somehow try to eliminate coastal fog, thats just silly.

Liquid propane? Thats used to as a heat source ground based silver iodide generators. Do you seriously think there are aircraft up there just dumping out liquid propane?

Some of you who pride yourself as skeptics, will believe anything you read when it comes to your chemtrail fantasies. Sorry, there are no C-130s being used for cloud seeding either.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:31 PM
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I'll just point out one of the mistakes in your post.




Sorry, there are no C-130s being used for cloud seeding either.


I didn't say cloud seeding, I was talking about weather modification.


Dyn-o-Gel Water Absorbing Polymer 3 Aug 2001 ... On July 16, Dyn-O-Mat CEO Peter Cordani and a team of weather experts loaded 20000 pounds of the storm-busting product into a C-130 jet at ...


www.anomalies-unlimited.com...



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