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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by mf_luder
You do know he can (and probably will) be voted in again right? That's what I took you to mean, that if he was voted in again you would want the military to intervene and you would want a military dictatorship. Which isn't surprising, many people on here already want a military dictatorship, and have posted as such. They want Obama gone so badly, they would rather have a military dictatorship than have a representative democracy.
If he is legally voted in again then I have nothing to say on the matter. If he attempts to stay in power beyond a term in which he is voted out - that's when it will become a problem.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by mf_luder
If he is legally voted in again then I have nothing to say on the matter. If he attempts to stay in power beyond a term in which he is voted out - that's when it will become a problem.
Don't worry, he won't attempt to stay in power if someone else is elected, that has never happened in the history of this country, and I don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.
People said the same thing with George W. Bush and I didn't buy it either. It's a temporary job. All presidents know this going into it.
I will apologize though, I thought you were one of those military dictatorship, civil war/revolution nuts on here that think the only way to fix what is wrong in our country is to go around and kill Americans.
I have seen the rage coming from the right wing. The absolute insanity of posters here that feel that killing Americans is the solution to their problems. They feel that nothing short of a revolution is the answer, they want the military to go in and blow away everyone in Washington and somehow, some way, think that the military once in control will step down willingly.
I have even read some nuts on here talk about repealing the 13th Amendment because they hate Obama so much.
I personally hope that a civil war doesn't break out, but if Texas secedes from the union, you better believe a LOT of us are going back home to our state.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by mf_luder
I personally hope that a civil war doesn't break out, but if Texas secedes from the union, you better believe a LOT of us are going back home to our state.
Believe me if Texas secedes from the union, you would not get ANY complaint from me. No complaint at all. Course, then I would probably push harder for the US to control the boarders.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by wx4caster
Please, the old tired worn out conspiracy that every single president will become a dictator and stay in office after their term ends is just stupid. Every single time the conspiracy theorists have been wrong. They did it with Bush, they did it with Clinton, they did it with Bush Sr, Reagan, and probably further.
It's one of those things that until it happens, I don't believe it will happen.
Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by whatukno
Totally aside from my earlier comment,
Republikan Demokrat you see only 2 parties.
There is another party coming up.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by wx4caster
Really? Can you explain in detail what exactly he has done that is a crime against the constitution. Please, tell us in detail. Not just what you think is unconstitutional, but what he has done specifically that has violated the constitution. I would be really interested.
In an outrageous example of the abuse of near dictatorial power, the leader of the United States Senate, Harry Reid, forced a vote on nationalized health care. With total disregard for the will of the people and turning a blind eye to the United States Constitution, Reid sought passage for this bill by corrupting the legislative system.
"This process is not legislation. This process is corruption," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, referring to the last-minute blitz of dirty deal making that enabled Obama to lock in the 60 votes needed to pass the bill.
The final hold out was Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson. But he hit the jackpot when they bought his yes vote, scoring $45 million to completely cover Nebraska’s Medicaid bill every year into the indefinite future.
Clearly this deal violates Article 1 Section 9 part 6 of the Constitution which says: “No preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one state over another…” and Article 4 Section 2 which says: “The Citizens of each state shall be entitled to all the Privileges and Immunities of the Citizens in the several states.”
Citizens of Nebraska will now have state medical bills, other states must pay, funded courtesy of the United States government (meaning you and me.) Nebraskans are clearly receiving a special privilege. According to this monstrosity, they are more equal than other Americans.
Attorney General Bill McCollum says he and eight other states' attorneys general plan to file a lawsuit against the reform bill approved by Congress.
"The health care reform legislation passed by the U. S. House of Representatives this last night clearly violates the U.S. Constitution and infringes on each state's sovereignty," McCollum said in a release after the vote.
Originally posted by links234
reply to post by wx4caster
As for the first example, I believe the will of the people was heeded in the 2008 elections...what you see and hear now are the just squeeky-wheel losers.
To the second example, it's just politics being played by the minority party...drumming up some support from their fringe based TEA partiers, in some attempt to make their name known for the upcoming 2010 elections. Can you tell me how many of those politicians and attorney generals that filed the lawsuits are running for some sort of election? I can tell you right now Bill McCollum is running for governor. Shall we go on to disscuss how many other AG's who filed are trying for their bosses job this year?
Look beyond the rhetoric and you'll find that it's all baseless. Demonization of the other guys so they can keep their jobs or get a better one. They have no plans, no ideas...nothing but the attack on the democrats as their platform, "Vote for me because I'm not one them."
- INDIVIDUAL MANDATE: Almost everyone will be required to get insurance or face a fine - $95 in 2014, $325 in 2015 and $695 in 2016 (with a maximum of $2,250 for a family). There is an exemption for low-income people.
- EMPLOYER MANDATE: Businesses with 50 or more employees must offer insurance or pay a $2,000-per-worker penalty.
- HEALTH CARE EXCHANGES: These new state-based marketplaces should be open for business, giving individuals and small businesses a place to shop for affordable insurance .
- SUBSIDIES: To help pay for insurance, the feds will offer subsidies to families making as much as $88,000 a year. Out-of-pocket spending will be tied to a person's income and kept as low as $1,000.
Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by whatukno
Hey Monica, I think being under the Presidents desk is not a good idea.
Oh wait, its you whatukno...
You got a little somethin on your collar btw.