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Originally posted by Takka
reply to post by impaired
Also, some people are mentally unbalanced and in pain.
Fair enough , I can understand people who are mentally unstable or people in constant pain due to injuries/disease .
To be more specific I'm referring to those who have have nothing physically or mentally wrong with them , but kill themselves over things like break ups (I know of several people having done this , I dare say this is a very common thing) Putting their family and friends through this kind of pain and loss to me is very selfish . I understand they get themselves into an irrational state of mind , and may not be thinking about the consequences of their actions .
A stronger person wouldn't do such a thing , hence in my opinion - weak minded.
And no I can't put myself in their shoes , but I know I would never even consider doing such a thing .
There are plenty of people who have had very hard lives and haven't resorted to suicide .
I understand my point of view will piss some people off , but it doesn't change how I feel about the subject.
People who kill themselves for what seems to me to be silly reasons pisses me off .
I cant help that , that's the way my mind works , even watching people off themselves in movies makes me angry .
[edit on 18-7-2010 by Takka]
There is truth in this type of thinking the truth lies in the idea of the individual deciding to leave of their own accord. Remember the Buddha and how he told his followers he was leaving and ascended the different levels of his mind until he was free of this world. Would that be considered suicide. It is my belief that until a soul is able to leave in this way then they are not ready to leave.
Why do I think this? I think this because this dynamic is pretty much everywhere. This nameless sense of guilt. This desire to protect and attack. The "guts" of the world are made of it. Our interpersonal dynamics speak of it. Think of one's parents and the combination of guilt, resentment and love that is invariably there. I believe that comes from something deeper.
I realize I shouldn't have called this taboo "universal"...
Who hates his life more than a suicide?
Could the major world religions be blocking the door to the easy way out?
Wouldn't their main focus be on keeping people in the "black iron prison?"
Could the ultimate freedom be found through the ultimate renouncement of this world, suicide?
Originally posted by joechip
This thread will examine the possible conspiracy involved in the condemnation of suicide by major world religions, and will examine the theory (put forward here) that suicide is actually an act of great spiritual courage and is possibly the ONLY act that will break the wheel of rebirth and demonstrate true spiritual commitment.
I believe you misunderstand my point about religion. The "customers" of religion are totally different than the customers of McDonald's. I'm not talking about profit motive here, but a mindset that leads nowhere on purpose to keep us coming back to this plane of existence.
And remind me where I offered advice of any kind.
Read the thread, maybe.