U.S. Atheists Reportedly Using Hair Dryers to 'De-Baptize'

reply to post by airspoon


I think that they are using their so called "Reason and Truth." to be contentious at the very least or even disrespectful. I support their right to do so but there are limits as to what one does in polite society.

What I find deeply ironic is that what they are doing is "an act perfomed with the conscious intent to change consciousness" they are bordering on magic (lol).

I firmly belive that Atheistism and Scepticism show many characteristsics of religous zealotry in many individuals.

Tiger5

Any comedian would look at this and just think they're being stupid...

Since when is atheist synonymous with "needs to get a life"?

Originally posted by undo
THAT'S because if you get enough people to frown on a belief system, war can be waged against it.

War can be waged for ANY reason. And for you to defend anyone who wages a war over beliefs is a mystery to me. People who would wage war over someone else's beliefs are sick.

People don't NEED to respect my beliefs. They need to have their own and respect THEM. Or not. I don't care. But my beliefs are my beliefs and are not made valid by garnering the respect of other people.

i have friends in just about every belief and non belief, and i don't want to see any of them die, PERIOD.

So, are you suggesting that we all walk on eggshells and do our very best at all times to not offend anyone? Because no matter HOW you try, people are going to be offended. It's part of life. Sometimes disagreeing causes offense. It's just something people have to deal with.

The right to express ourselves, no matter what that means, is MUCH more important than the right to not be offended.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


That's right BH.

People don't realize a simple fact.

Of all the rights you do have, the most important is probably:

You DO NOT have the right, to not be offended.

Freedom Of Speech starts with defending that of those you do not agree with.

~Keeper

reply to post by Annee


universities are full to the brim with atheist leaders, who not only teach atheist knowledge but atheist ideals and atheist theories. i say "atheist" even though there are people who are not atheists who share some of their ideals and/or theories in common, so it isn't like they are under represented in the formation of public opinion.

Using a hair dryer to de-baptise, are they mad?

It clearly states in the Bible, which if we all followed it would make the World a better place, that you CANNOT enter the Kingdom of God until you have been Baptised / Christened.

Even if you don't fully believe or go to church on a regular basis, do you really want to take the risk?

I know I all sorted if TSHTF..!!!

Originally posted by Intelearthling
Morals derived from religion (the God fearing kind) and since atheist don't believe in God, then they should never, and I mean never, lay cliam that they have morals or love in their hearts. If they do, then they hypocrites and liars.

Whoa. There is such thing as a middle ground. Ever heard of it? Since they don't believe in god, they should never act with empathy? Sounds like you're inviting people who don't follow your "God fearing", to commit murder, then suicide. That's very christian of you. You talk about 'satan's' wishes, then promote them.

reply to post by Annee


yes i am. by asking them not to inflame others deliberately, i'm asking them to avoid becoming prepetrators and victims. you don't poke a tiger with a stick repeatedly and expect him to be your best friend. logic, ya know? i wouldn't hurt an atheist, nottachance, but i also wouldn't hurt a muslim or a jew or a pagan and etc. of course, that's based on the whole concept behind "Blessed are the peacemakers." I'm attempting to be diplomatic, and apparently failing.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


i agree we need the right to express ourselves. i 'm not talking about a written law here. i'm talking about common courtesy, as this can go a long way in assuaging anger and averting disaster.

Originally posted by minkey53
Using a hair dryer to de-baptise, are they mad?

It clearly states in the Bible, which if we all followed it would make the World a better place, that you CANNOT enter the Kingdom of God until you have been Baptised / Christened.

Even if you don't fully believe or go to church on a regular basis, do you really want to take the risk?

I know I all sorted if TSHTF..!!!

If everyone followed the bible, the world would be a very scary place. Our ancestors already tried that and all we got was war, tyranny and oppression.

Could you imagine if everytime someone masterbated or looked at porn, they gouge their own eye out?

--airspoon

reply to post by undo


I agree. And most people have and use common courtesy and decency. But there are people in the world who LIKE to piss others off and LIKE to shock people, etc. And they should be allowed to, if they're not hurting anyone.

Yes, the would would be a better place if we were all nice, but we're not.

[edit on 7/18/2010 by Benevolent Heretic]

reply to post by Intelearthling


it also says that even the gentiles love their friends and hate their enemies and that we should seek to love everyone, even those who deem themselves our enemies. honey certainly works better than vinegar. it's like doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. i suspect that one of the things about yeshua's teaching that makes it so appealing is that it's so logical. we tend to admire logic of various kinds, not just the mathematical kind.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


news programs have the final responsibility in this because they don't have to air that kind of thing. the fact they do, and will, says more about social engineering of a potentially dangerous variety, rather than freedom of expression.

Originally posted by Intelearthling
Morals derived from religion (the God fearing kind) and since atheist don't believe in God, then they should never, and I mean never, lay cliam that they have morals or love in their hearts. If they do, then they hypocrites and liars.

That's so silly! I suppose (by what you say) that you got your morals and the ability to love from God... OK, I'll accept that, But to think that "God" is the only place that morals and love can come from is ... a little strange and closed-minded, not to mention wrong.

Call me a hypocrite and liar all you want, but I have very strong and high morals and I learn more about love every day. And it's not from God.

reply to post by undo


Hey, I don't disagree there. The social engineering is in full swing and it's NOT a good thing. That's one reason I Quit TV.

If those performing the de-baptising believe in what they are doing then, symbolically speaking, they are not much different from those doing the baptising.

If they dont believe in it then its just an act of art, which is pretty funny, but also intentionally offensive to some people which is worse than baptising someone.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


yeah but it all gets posted here, anyway, so you are essentially watching TV news via osmosis or something.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by undo

 

Hey, I don't disagree there. The social engineering is in full swing and it's NOT a good thing. That's one reason I Quit TV.

Me too. I watch - but am very selective. No longer watch TV news shows (sometimes local)

If entertainment shows have - killing - drugs - rape - arguing - alliances - back stabbing - etc - - in the description - I don't watch. And that doesn't leave much.

Pretty much down to: cooking/food - animal - music - and travel shows.

Started reading again.

reply to post by undo


Nope. I only open VERY few threads these days.

This is from 2008: DeBaptize Me! There's a picture of a hairdryer at the top of the page! So, seems this has been happening for some time.

Clearly, the ones performing this ceremony find it hilarious.

reply to post by undo


'Common atheist ideas'? There is only one 'common atheist idea.' That is that there is insufficient evidence to prove the existance of a deity. You cannot hold the 'common atheist idea' and not be an atheist. After that, any two atheists can be as different as any two other humans.