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Where The Job Recovery Is Strong: Oh Canada!

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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by MRuss
2) The insanely high tax rate: Someone has to fund their socialized medicine program! How does 18 percent sales tax grab ya?


Sales tax differ from province to province. They are a combination of a provincial sales tax and a federal tax (GST) which is 5%. I live in Alberta so its only 5% here not 18% as there is no provincial sales tax. The federal government also gives out GST rebates every 3 months depending on your income.

Some products or services you do not pay GST on. Things like rent, most health care services, child care services, as well as basic food. Basic meaning things like fruit, vegetables, meat, grains, baby formula, etc. If you go to a restaurant you will pay GST or if you buy more manufactured foods. Public transit I think is also GST free. You only pay GST on a new homes not ones that have been previously lived in.

We are a very large country with a small population so GST is a necessary evil. Even if we were to get rid of it we would still end up paying a higher price for goods. This just puts the cost out in the open. Personally I think its a good tax. I would rather get taxed on what I spend then what I make. We should lower income tax and increase GST in my opinion.


Originally posted by MRuss
3) Ground Zero for Immigration: Some parts of Canada are actually encouraging immigrants to come and populate their cities! Take St. John, New Brunswick, for example. They're losing their young population to bigger cities and so they need new blood to come in and support their infrastructure. On the other hand, cities like Toronto have been flooded with immigrants to the point of exhaustion.


Once again Canada has a very small population and a lot of land. We require immigrants. I personally have no problem with people from other nations moving here as I think it benefits our country. Canadian citizens also like to migrate around the country so outside immigration can help balance this out.


Originally posted by MRuss
4) Year after year, I see the same people in the same jobs when I head back to Canada. These are people in the service orientated industry like hotels, restaurants, ferries, etc. These types of jobs have a high turn over in the US, but not in Canada! What does this tell you? Why do people hang on to and covet low-paying jobs there? Because it's hard to move up, hard to get ahead and hard to find another job.


You can not compare all of Canada to what might true for parts of the east coast. Obviously things have slowed down right now but there are still good jobs out there.


Originally posted by MRuss
5) Recently, there was word that cities in central Canada were begging people to come and work there. You'd walk down the street in cities like Edmonton and Calgary and find help wanted signs on every other door. So, yes, there are jobs. As long as you are willing to bear the cold and work in service-orientated jobs.


Things did get pretty crazy out here in Alberta for awhile although everything has calmed down now. At least until oil prices start to soar again. You can make very good money here working on the oil rigs and with the rigs come all sorts of other jobs as well a lot of which are not in the service industry.

The provincial government of Alberta is also giving a lot incentives for certain careers such as trades. Get paid while going to school, receive grants, etc. Its actually not that cold out here. We don't get the super high temperatures and yes it can get damn cold during the winter but for the most part its pretty well balanced. Calgary also gets Chinooks (warm winds coming over the mountains) during the winter that can take the temperature from -15 C to +20 C within 48 hours. One day you can be wearing 7 layers of clothing and the next be in shorts sitting on a patio sipping a beer.




posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 12:09 PM
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It's funny how most Americans still laugh at Canada at the time when we are leading the g8 in economy. Not to mention our quality of life is much better.

Parts of America resemble of a third world nation.



I just hope we will close the borders if the SHTF down in the US. I don't want those damn americans illegals in my country tryin to steal jobs and women and kill people. (sarcasm) Nonetheless i would love to see americans taste their own medecine.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by imdeceived
It's funny how most Americans still laugh at Canada at the time when we are leading the g8 in economy. Not to mention our quality of life is much better.
Parts of America resemble of a third world nation.
I just hope we will close the borders if the SHTF down in the US. I don't want those damn americans illegals in my country tryin to steal jobs and women and kill people. (sarcasm) Nonetheless i would love to see americans taste their own medecine.


Naw...I have good wishes for the Americans, and if we are doing pretty well up here in this Bravo Sierra economic crunch we've been handed, I wish the same for our Yankee cousins.



posted on Jul, 20 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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This problem has plagued both Canada and the US .. Taxation, fines, regulations galore..

Another excellent industry to look at is Paper. Paper used to be very profitable in the US and NW Canada.. but no longer. Even recycling paper here is to expensive. We cut down our trees and put them on ships, send them to China where they make the paper at obscenely low cost, then sell it back to us for massive profit.

Ever wonder where packing paper comes from? Most of it is paper scrap and trash collected through recycling, put on a ship, sent to China, made into massive rolls of packing paper, sent back to the US and sold for yet again obscene profits. The wealthiest person in China is a woman.. who made her billions taking our trash and selling it back to us for insane profit.

The US, Canada and most of Europe has lost it's competitive edge.. We might be the Kings of shopping centers, big box stores and hamburgers.. but have literally forced out some of our once most significant sources of wealth creation. Be it Steel, Paper, Automobiles, or any other fabrication/manufacturing. Until we end the regulation and taxation .. it won't end either.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 03:05 AM
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You bring up some very good points. I worked on logships for years in BC and then the Softwood Lumber dispute came about and during that mess both countries lost out to China in that fiasco. I went from making $85000/year to $24000 the next and the industry never bounced back. The company I worked for mothballed the ship because prices weren't high enough to make it profitable. At least 30000 jobs were shed in BC alone for that and who knows how many in the US.

Back on topic, Canada has a different system in many regards to the US. For one we don't view military spending as the most important budget item and use half of our tax dollars paying for it and wars. We prefer "SOCIALIST MEDICINE" or whatever you want to call it. All I know is that if I get seriously ill I don't have to sell everything I own to get better. I'll take that over the US system anyday. Does it need improving, of course it does.

But if the US goes down, we will go down with them as they are our largest trading partner and that won't be good.



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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This problem has plagued both Canada and the US .. Taxation, fines, regulations galore..

The US, Canada and most of Europe has lost it's competitive edge.. We might be the Kings of shopping centers, big box stores and hamburgers.. but have literally forced out some of our once most significant sources of wealth creation. Be it Steel, Paper, Automobiles, or any other fabrication/manufacturing. Until we end the regulation and taxation .. it won't end either.


Excuse me? How about the part where the jobs go overseas, cheap/slave labour does the work that used to be done here to put food on our tables and roofs over our heads...and has the price dropped substantially to reflect that fact?

NO!

So where is the difference going? Wall/Bay Street! The rich are getting richer, and we are getting screwed. Too much regulation?

How are you enjoying the deregulation of banks and oil drillers so far?

How about regulating that if you want to deal with the American/Canadian government...your company be registered here...not in some off-shore tax haven. How about we deal with those Asian countries that limit our imports by using punitive tariffs on theirs? You know why not? Wall/Bay Street loses its end of the deal...and the wealthy don't suck quite so much of our money into their portfolios.

Too much regulation me arse.

And taxes? Plenty of dough to pay Halliburton to fix the countries we paid to break for no apparent reason. You want to lower taxes? How about killing those tax cuts to the wealthy and walk away from a war or two.

I'm surprised you aren't blaming the Unions, too. But the day is young...



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Praise Canada Woot... I'm a good ol' Ontario girl. Born in northern Ontario, in some small town with a giant fish and raised in the city. I noticed someone mentioned the cold. I walked to school in a skirt during -40 Celsius. Why is that because if you live in the cold long enough you get use to it. My nerdy friend once said " You'd wear a bathing suit and go sun tanning on Hoth". Also If you have summers of 45 Celsius the blood freezing cold is pretty nice...

I'm proud Canada is doing well economically... Go Canada you deserve this.

Xiamara

Long live canada the homeland for poutine, the heart attack in a bowl covered in gravy and cheese...




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