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Originally posted by edmc^2
Originally posted by hippomchippo
Originally posted by edmc^2
Originally posted by hippomchippo
"Scientists can't explain how life came to be. There must have been a god to create the first life form."
Oops, we pretty much have that nailed now.
So now it goes to this.
"The Big Bang theory doesn't explain what caused the Big Bang. There must have been a god to set the universe in motion."
That's a massive leap of logic there Edmc2, I hope you realize that, and until we can use some sort of scientific knowledge or tools to find out what actually happened before the big bang, it's nothing but a assertion, and believing in god on an assertion is really bad thinking.
[edit on 17-7-2010 by hippomchippo]
E= mc2
That's a fantastic way to ignore my post, thanks.
Well we can delve into quantum physics and the theory of relativity but I'm trying to keep things simple.
So do you agree that the universe had a beginning then?
ty,
edmc2
Originally posted by hippomchippo
Originally posted by edmc^2
Originally posted by Not of this Earth
reply to post by edmc^2
you don't belive in fairy tales yet the existance of god is the biggest fairy tale of all
On the contrary, true science and simple logic proves his existence.
ie - pencil vs brain - a maker is require for both to exist.
E = mc2
(Isa 40:26) ““Raise YOUR eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one [of them] is missing.”
ty,
edmc2
Oh, I see, the "Energy is everything and can't be destroyed etc" argument.
Go ahead and try to prove that the energy is intelligent or has a mind.
Originally posted by soleprobe
Good job.... but the evolution theory is very similar to the climate change theory... it's roots are political... thus only logic that directs towards that political objective will be used.
Originally posted by edmc^2
I didn't say energy has intelligence - I said that the source of energy has the intelligence. Thus the quote.
ty,
[edit on 17-7-2010 by edmc^2]
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by soleprobe
Good job.... but the evolution theory is very similar to the climate change theory... it's roots are political... thus only logic that directs towards that political objective will be used.
see, this is the problem with you people...scientific testing is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of anything political...religion and the belief in god is totally political...why???
because nobody can DISPROVE A BELIEF!!! it's...a... BELIEF!!!
Originally posted by edmc^2
So OZ are you saying that a simpe pencil requires a maker while the super complex universe with all of its stars and galaxies does not require a maker? Just happen to be?
Hmmm, highly illogic and unscientific don't you think?
ty,
edmc2
Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by edmc^2
Not another creationist who thinks he/she is smarter than an evolutionist. So your argument is that a higher intelligence which has absolutely no evidence of even existing has created our entire world? I think trying to say, "It's too complex for me to understand, so something smarter than us created it!"
So people like the OP seem to pride themselves on pure ignorance and not knowing anything. It truly is a huge surprise that civilization has survived this long with thoughts like that.
If there were any reason for me to believe in a higher being is that people are still alive after millenniums of thoughts like that being the rule. It truly must be a miracle.
“to know how God created the world.” Yet Einstein did not admit to belief in a personal God; he spoke of a cosmic “religious feeling, which knows no dogma and no God conceived in man’s image.”
“It is enough for me to . . . reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe, which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifest in nature.”
Originally posted by Not of this Earth
reply to post by edmc^2
OK here is my last post on the subject.
I do not have a problem with faith or religion. If your beliefs get you through the day great. We all need that.
BUT If you are going to start a thread on a public form like this and expect a response do not dismiss everyones comments because they do not follow your beliefs
Originally posted by soleprobe
reply to post by edmc^2
If miracles could not convince many to believe, how will mere words?
Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by soleprobe
not miracles my friend aliens not kiddin neither