Originally posted by heelstone
I suggest you get hypno-regression therapy to clarify those memories, but as you've previously mentioned you're fairly against that notion. Still,
if you think the information is in any way real and could provide real help to others due to it, perhaps you should seek it out. Now cost might be an
issue to you as all things are in life. I know that many UFOlogicial groups will sponsor such sessions at times so you may want to contact one like
MUFON if you decide to go further in extracting these memories.
Can you go further into the questions you asked and were asked during these lucid experiences? Exactly what did these things tell you? Also What
questions did they refuse to answer of you?
[edit on 17-6-2004 by heelstone]
Hi there, nice to meet you. Well, I'm interested in hypnosis and regression, and I will be looking into it. I didn't mean to imply I'd discount
it, not at all. I just mean that to me it would be suspect, and that I'd not take anything found there to mean much either way, I'd just be doing it
for the understanding of what I've seen, not as much for digging to the roots of the entire thing. I guess that may sound close-minded, but I'm just
trying to keep all of this as rational as possible.
As far as cost is concerned, I have no problems paying for the services. I'm not a rich man, but I'm "comfortable". I appreciate the
thoughtfulness of that statement, and am glad to know that others in similar(or worse) situations have that avenue open to them as well.
Ok...just going to go with my gut now, here it goes.
Ok this next part is probably going to wind up long, and certainly will be strange, just so you know:
Ok as I've said in another thread, the thread that made me decide to register and put this out here for review; my "dreams" or whatever they are,
are still a tad fragmented. By that I mean that I come into "consciousness" or "become aware" in the middle of some of these sessions, missing
some of what has been said, or at least I don't have memory of the events before "awareness", this may be due to the nature of the memory I am
unsure, and that's something I really hope to find answer to. "Their" words have an * by them, mine have a + next to them.
Anyways, some things I've been "told" are below(to the best of my recollection, may not be verbatim):
[*So you see, that is why persons like you are needed.
+Who needs me?(kinda confused)
*Change is certain, weither it is positive or negative is up to persons like you.]
That's all I remember from that one "dream"
[*Because the structure of your society is one built on control, a form of enslavement.
(sound in the background, that I will leave out)
+What do you mean? We are controlled?
*Your entire existence is control, rulers dominate you lives. Human's goals are to dominate each other, even on the smallest scale. You cannot grow
under this control, and there are those who know this, it is their objective.
+Where am I?(kinda scared)
+Are you, is this real?(feel scared)
*Oh, I can assure you, this is very real.(Hazy, light-headed not sure if that was the exact words).]
Just sitting here recalling that above interaction, I feel a bit panicky, uneasy in my stomach. No idea why.
[*(Have?) you seen these symbols? You need to recognize this if you see it.]
See some items on a "wall" in front of me, blurry, maybe a triangle, can't say with any certainty.
[*...so we come and try to help. We have tried to clean your air, your water, we have tried to stop spread of diseases in your food sources. We are
fought by your rulers, they want things to come to pass, which we cannot allow. We are very invested in you, much time and effort are put into this
Strange voices/noises, like a language I guess?, shrieks and gurgles?
The above is *not* verbatim, just what I remember, the gist of the conversation.
[*Isn't it beautiful? You can have a chance at this, you can be a part of all this.
+Why are we here(calm, not surprised)?
*This is what you wanted to see isn't it?
*This is what our work is for. This is what your work is for.
+I don't understand(scared now)
*Yes you do.
+Who are you? Who am I?(feel sensation of tears swelling in my eyes right now as typing that.)
*A valid question.
Don't fear this, it is what you have strived for. I'll leave you to think of such things now.]
Looking out of some "window" or monitor or something. In a bright grey room, blue lights behind me somewhere, no shoes on, clothes on, not normal
clothes, loose, v neck, symbol on the arm, printed on? 4 other humans standing near me, 20 yards away, quiet, can't make out what they look like, but
can "feel" that we went into this room together. Confusion or fear in the air, if that makes any sense.
This above section is almost verbatim, or may be, I feel very very confident in the above words.
Won't say what I saw, or the symbol, as I want to save these to compare with any others with similar experiences, to see if it matches up you
Those are the most vivid of my "dreams", ones that I can "feel" when writing them down. I've obscured a few things, and left out 2 specific
things, as I want to see if anyone else has this same "phrase" and " sound". Left symbols out too, saw some over a "door" of some kind,
remember a few of them. One in particular I really remember, like ingrained in me for whatever reason. I'll not disclose this, as it was so
prominent that it may have value to others or groups, I don't know why I even think that.
Also my MOST vivid "dream" is on another thread here, which details it out a bit. It was the most amazing thing I've ever "seen"(can't be sure I
did). I have extreme feelings of joy and peace thinking of it, whatever that really means.
Don't know what to make of any of the above. Please note that I'm not spouting this as dogma, or asking you to believe in me or my words. I have
just as much doubt or more than the most jaded person on here I'm sure.
All I want is understanding of all this.