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Raids are increasing on farms and private food-supply clubs

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posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 06:27 AM
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Cannot drink pasteurized, homogenized, malnourished milk.

Grew up on a dairy farm and grew to be 6'3" 200#s drinking whole milk. Until I left the farm I could drink milk with NO ill affects.

NOW, if I drink one glass of grocery store CRAP, 30 seconds later BOOM!

Amazingly enough, I now get my milk from a farmer that I know, before all the "supposed" safety contingencies are implemented. Hmmmmmmmm, not a problem in sight.

Wonder WHY THAT IS?




posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
I think a thread on ATS mentions that the head of the FDA is Ex-Monsanto.

That's the problem.

Seems like the US needs an 'Independant Anti-Corruption Commission'. One that can follow an investigation right through the Government itself if need be.


They will never create such an orginazation. Why? Because what we call "The Government" is in fact nothing more then a profit based corporation hell-bent on increasing their profits and furhtering their agenda...



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by blamethegreys
Another very important point that wasn't mentioned in any of the links, or in the thread:
As an organic eater (and I try very hard to buy local as well) My family and I do not consume nearly as much food as we used to a year ago before we decided to switch!
The nutrient-dense foods sustain a person so much more efficiently than the slop shoveled to the masses! I am worried that some of my suppliers are gonna get hit like these poor people!


Yes, that's very true. I've recently culled as much processed food from my diet as possible, and I've already lost about 20lbs. in 1 month. Not because I'm forcing myself to east much less, but because the food I'm eating is much more dense in nutrients and the things I need to properly sustain my days.

It feels good.

Not that I was a processed food junkie, but I was starting to get lazy about it. Frozen pizzas, frozen franken-meats, and so on. In retrospect, it feels sad to me, that I was eating that stuff, because it didn't even fill me up unless I stuffed my face, and it gave me absolutely no nutrients. Sad.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:26 AM
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In the United States today Law Enforcement is not required to have a reason to take anything they want from you, nor are they required to show probable cause to stop and search.
WAKE UP you live in a Police State. You have no 4th admendment right in the New America.
Notice this article is from the EU Times not a US paper or US news outlet.
Ask yourself WHY?



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:36 AM
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You are right. The idea of authorities don't need an excuse (provocation) to act out of its violent nature. If necessary, they will invent a "cause" later.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by ANOMALY502
The Co-Op where I purchase my raw milk and organic veggies, and grass fed beef was recently harassed here in Michigan. Here is the article

www.businessweek.com...

He is still up and running so I can still get my good food but for how long??



Yes this was cute out in California but now its spreading. If it really get off the ground and it looks like its trying, it will challange many big money industries.

I will tell you one. Viagra. If you are an older male midlife or older....try growning some shard in the back yard. Its amazing...takes about 24 hours to work, very natural without all the side effects plus its certain other benefits.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
Cannot drink pasteurized, homogenized, malnourished milk.

Grew up on a dairy farm and grew to be 6'3" 200#s drinking whole milk. Until I left the farm I could drink milk with NO ill affects.

NOW, if I drink one glass of grocery store CRAP, 30 seconds later BOOM!

Amazingly enough, I now get my milk from a farmer that I know, before all the "supposed" safety contingencies are implemented. Hmmmmmmmm, not a problem in sight.

Wonder WHY THAT IS?



Talked to a guy, a dairy farmer, his milk tanker was broke down along the raod. He said they put so much stuff in milk that its not even milk but a chemical bath. Said he wouldnt recomend drinking it. Thats from a dairy farmer.

And we can be certain that milk taken from a cow eating greens is going to be way better anyway.

I raise rabbits. Take this to the bank. Nursing mothers that eat a fair amount of greens, planton and dandelion, durring the first week of nursing have a much higher rate of servival among thier young. If you can get that green milk into those young durring the first two days of life the survival numbers are very high. 7 out of 8 as opposed to say 4 out of 8. One reason for this is that it gives the smaller weaker less aggresive babies more strength to fight fot tit. If they can get past the first say 3 days then they are in. The weaker smaller dont need as much milk either when they are drinking this super mix. One thing is pure natural vitamin C.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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My friends play Farmville on the computer, and laugh while I sweat in the backyard on my real "farm" Its as big a garden as the wife will let me grow in the backyard, I might even have enough to can some veggies this year, and they taste awesome!!



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 08:19 AM
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Raids are a lot different than inspections or investigations.

(I'm sick to death of intellectually dishonest, alarmist headlines designed to sell papers, incite people artificially, or both. They're desensitizing us all. When TS really HTF, will anyone even notice?)

[edit on 7/17/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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It all comes down to GMO’s and MONSANTO, MONSANTO LOBBYISTS, and MONSANTO paying off the FDA and Crooked Politicians. The same holds true with Big Pharma, they payoff the FDA to let them pump us with Untested Drugs that Kill. Monsanto and Big Pharma regularly hire former FDA Officials and former Politicians and the FDA regularly hires Monsanto and Big Pharma employees. It’s a Money Ginmill and it goes on in every branch of Government. Many people in our government could care less about the welfare of the citizens in this Country, all they care about is Filling their Pockets. It makes you wonder how a person can hire into government poor and retire with a net worth of Millions, it happens all the time.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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It seems to be a confusion about bad reactions to milk. I believe these reactions are related to the kind of milk you drink, not to the process used to kill the bacterias.

Regular dairy farmers use hormones in order to make cows produce more milk.

Other thing to mention is the fat-protein ratio. In winter, farmers use artificial food for the cows, that increase the level of butterfat in milk. In summer they use more natural food and the milk butterfat is much lower.

Organic milk is hormone-free and comes from cows fed in natural way.

To adjust the ratio, milk plants use centrifuge milk separators to standarize the milk in the percentage required. That is how they make fat free milk too.

There are also additives like calcium, titanium dioxide, and non fat milk powder included in some processes, depending of the product to make, like cheese for example. I'm not sure if those additives may provoke bad reactions, probably depends of the proportions used. I disagree with the use those ingredients.

Pasteurization, homogenization and standardization processes are the same for both kinds of milk. There is nothing wrong with this procedures and are safe when conducted in the proper way.

Boiling the raw milk at home won't make a difference if it is not organic milk.

Good day all

[edit on 17-7-2010 by Trueman]



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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I have a friend who was an organic farmer and organic inspector. He tried to approach a few different college ag departments to teach some organic principles and even come give some free speeches. He got absolutely no response, and he said it was because Monsanto, Dupont etc. were major contributors to their ag programs.

USA (United States of America) --now-->> CSA (Corporate States of America)



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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This link describes a very similar raid (yes RAID unless you prefer euphemisms) that happened in Ohio in 2008.
Link to "The Bovine" blog
More Info

The whole thing sounds and stinks very much like the Michigan raid.

[edit on 17-7-2010 by 1SawSomeThings]



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by silent thunder


According to the article, a number of government organizations ranging from the FBI and the FDA to state-level agricultural authorities are raiding farms and so-called "food clubs," where people grow and swap their own healthy, non-franken-food, non-genetically-manipulated, non-sprayed-with-pure-poison foods.

After all, we can't have private citizens cutting into agribusiness profits, now can we? And heaven forbid people start actually growing their own healthy food and caring for themselves! Oh the horror.

www.eutimes.net
(visit the link for the full news article)


This just gets me so angry. If there is anything that humans have a basic right to, it is the right to eat real food.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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I prefer a realistic reporting of news with realistic headlines to reflect it and also direct not veiled replies that address all the points made in a particular post.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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dupe removed



[edit on 7/17/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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TPTB are beginning to edge out on to thin ice. In Bolivia, the world bank provided the govt. a loan, with the stipulation that Bolivia had to allow Bechtel into their country to privatize the water supply.
Bechtel promptly instituted massive price increases and cut back services to many more remote areas.
Bolivia got a revolt that nearly toppled the Govt.

When these people start messing with food and water they are playing with some very deep-seated primal instincts we humans have. Organic awareness is rising, and when it becomes clear the government is stopping people from choosing healthy food, I would hope TSHTF.

In the end, the feds are beginning the crusade to secure a new 14 billion (and growing) sector: Corporate Organics! Thanks to Anomoly502 for the link in which found this:
www.businessweek.com...
Organics in the grocery store are barely that, and contain ingredients from all over the globe! Buy local!

I'm off the farmer's market btw



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:34 AM
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The OP should post all of the first 6 paragrahps in the quote for a more true view of what is being said in the article.

I'm sure there may be more to whats going on then whats said. The continual harassment to these folks though may be an indicator that these guys are trying to shut these people down.

RJ



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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First off, I'm going to say that I'm all for this general idea of the government against private farmers.

Food is subsidized in this nation for the purpose that the farmers in America have enough supply/demand/profits/cost to produce enough food and now fuel for EVERYONE in America to be able to eat and survive.

It's bad enough as it is that farmers are in general broke. They sit on multi-million dollar lands that are just begging to be subdivided for the next neighborhood. Anyone of these farmers can give in and sell the land off at anytime, give up the life of smelling cow manure on a 90 degree day to buy a nice house on a lake somewhere.

It's their passion and dedication that allow us to have a steady supply of inexpensive food at any given time in this nation. Show a little appreciation.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by intelinside451
First off, I'm going to say that I'm all for this general idea of the government against private farmers.

Food is subsidized in this nation for the purpose that the farmers in America have enough supply/demand/profits/cost to produce enough food and now fuel for EVERYONE in America to be able to eat and survive.

It's bad enough as it is that farmers are in general broke. They sit on multi-million dollar lands that are just begging to be subdivided for the next neighborhood. Anyone of these farmers can give in and sell the land off at anytime, give up the life of smelling cow manure on a 90 degree day to buy a nice house on a lake somewhere.

It's their passion and dedication that allow us to have a steady supply of inexpensive food at any given time in this nation. Show a little appreciation.


Still dont see how the above argument justifies the illegalization of homegrown crops...

But you'd fit right in with the FDA



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