posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 12:41 AM
Originally posted by defcon5
Originally posted by Alethea
Who really is ruling this world?
John 12:30-31 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine. Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this
world will be driven out.
Jesus is certainly not talking about himself or the father in the above quote.
2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of
Christ, who is the image of God.
Both of the above refer to the ruler of this world:
John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not
holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
The bible makes the fact that we are living in a world subject to sin, death, and Satan as its ruler, exceptionally clear if you read it. That is why
Christians are supposed to be “In” this world, and not “Of” this world.
How does one become "of" this world if they are "in" it?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every
one that is born of the Spirit.
Joh 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
Joh 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Joh 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
To become "of" the world you would have to "consume" the blood. That is to "finish" it.
Gen 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Gen 9:5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of
every man's brother will I require the life of man.
Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth(expend) man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
This is where it gets confusing...
Mar 14:23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
Mar 14:24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
Mar 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
Many words are double edged. To loose your life is to raise another which is the only way (procreation), the only truth (those things which we
know-which many do not believe) and the only life (that which you are witness to)...
Luk 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
There is an image which perceived to be true which is longed for and sacrificed to, then there is the only begotten which is always "before" the
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
And here is truth...
Luk 18:16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of
Ascension is descending by way of the tree of life a.k.a. the family tree.
Tell me, are 2 billion souls, 1/3 of the worlds population taking the "narrow" path through the sheep gate which is so narrow only one can go
through at a time or do many have lofty ideas not seeing the only way life has ever come into the world, rather trading that in for the image of a
An adversary (satan) can create nothing, only the Lord creates. He is Pro-creation bringing forth peace and evil.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isa 45:8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and
let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
Isa 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that
fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
Isa 45:10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?
Check out these passages....they are saying the same thing.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
And here Jesus speaks himself of Genesis telling you the truth...
Mar 10:5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mar 10:7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
Mar 10:8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
Mar 10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
A new creation is literally that, a new life made from two...true marriage...a child...."And a child shall lead them..."
[edit on 16-7-2010 by letthereaderunderstand]