Methane: Methane Methane Methane!

Hello ATS!

Fears of reports about methane gas pertaining to it's toxicity, it's flamability, and it's catastrophic possibilities have surfaced lately, but the subject quickly died. Methane has some possitive aspects as well however, but I'd like to weigh in here to see which outweighs which. Is Methane something the inhabitants of Earth need to be aware of? I mean, Seas of Methane exist on other planets and moons, like the moon Titan, Methane cant form seas on planet Earth. Right?

Methane and Methane Hydrate Deposites pose a strong possibility for future energy needs.

Under certain pressure and temperature conditions gas molecules such as methane can crystallize with water molecules to an ice-like structure, so-called methane hydrates. At the MARUM institute in Bremen, scientists are working toward a better understanding of the role of methane hydrates for the deep-sea ecosystems, the global carbon cycle, and the stability of continental slopes. Methane hydrates have received special attention because the energy stored in them may be used by people in the future.

But when it comes to these substances, thats the possitive side of it all... Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 0

A recent fear that stemmed from the BP oilspill was the fact about Methane and Methane Hydrates, as the story below reports:

Doom sday Methane Bubble Rupture?: How the BP Gulf Disaster May Have Triggered a 'World-Killing' Event

Supposedly this fear can subside as it appears that BP has got the situation somewhat under control. Is this assumption premature? BP even announced that the flow of oil has been contained.. but has it really? The world's oceans are heating up, causing something alot more disasterous than what BP was involved with. True, if the seafloor had ruptured, releasing the methane contained within it it would have been globally disasterous. So far that hasn't happened.

HOWEVER!...

With the oceans around the globe heating up, previously trapped and stored deposites of Methane and Methane Hydrates are starting to disolve and release that methane in the atmosphere at a globally alarming rate! Scientists have caldulated that each year 33 million tons of Methane are being released atmosphereicaly on an annual basis! I guess Methane seas do form on planet Earth, UNDERNEATH OUR OCEANS OF WATER!

Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 1

1993 Indonesian Methane Hydrate Blowout



As this accident footage reveals, Methane pockets are located all around the world, and can produce some real and terrifying effects!

In reality huge, densly packed pockets of Methane and Methane Hydrate have been discovered practically on every Continental Shelf around the world, as well as within deep trenches formed through tectonic plate subduction. Noteable locations of massive deposites are:

the Arctic Seabed, Costa Rica, Gulf of Mexico, Californian Coastal Waters, Siberia, Alaska, Sea of Japan, Indonesia, the Hikurangi Margin, New Zealand, and several locations in the Indian Ocean. Methane hydrates have been found on Black Ridge off eastern US, in the Barents Sea southeast of Svalbard, north side of Storegga Slide (site of past tsunami). Another hotspot (pardon the pun) is the northern coast of Spitzbergen, which is warming fast as warm water currents break through the Fram Strait into the Arctic.

Arctic Sea Belching Tons of Methane

This is the most highly watched area currently in the cross hairs. This entire region, which for centuries has been locked up in ice sheets, has been melting, releasing stored CO2 gases, and Methane.

Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 2

Globe-Warming Methane Is Gushing From a Russian Ice Shelf

This week in Science, another team reports seeing the same thing during thousands of observations of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf on Russia’s north coast, which is even more worrisome because it’s a huge methane deposit.

The shelf, which covers about 800,000 square miles, was exposed during the last ice age. When the region was above sea level, tundra vegetation pulled carbon dioxide from the air as plants grew. That organic material, much of which didn’t decompose in the frigid Arctic, accumulated in the soil and is the source of modern methane [Science News]. Now underwater, it’s covered by a layer of permafrost. But that permafrost seems to be becoming unstable, thanks to the fact that the water on top of it is warmer than the air it was exposed to back when it was on dry land.

East Siberian Arctic Shelf

The study said about 8 million tonnes of methane a year, equivalent to the annual total previously estimated from all of the world’s oceans, were seeping from vast stores long trapped under permafrost

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Methane Explosion Warmed The Prehistoric Earth, Possible Again

A tremendous release of methane gas frozen beneath the sea floor heated the Earth by up to 13 degrees Fahrenheit (7 degrees Celsius) 55 million years ago, a new NASA study confirms.

Scientists have concluded that the possibilities this thread is disclosing here today have occurred in our history, on several occasions!

Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 3

Continued in next post!

[edit on 7/15/2010 by Megiddodiddo]

Ocean Methane Release: Another Deadly Effect of Global Warming

According to www.scientificamerican.com, with the rate of the oceans constant warming, oceans are releasing around 33 million tons of methane each year; and apparently this isn't the first time the Earth has seen such a rise in methane release. At an estimate of 16,000 years ago, the Earth felt the same peak of warming levels and global temperatures. www.sciencedaily.com also points out that scientists have data proving a huge methane release on a global scale that occurred around 600 million years ago.

In Conclusion, Methane Hydrates are a threat Mankind cannot ignore. The Arctic timebomb is a prime example of why - and it's not just because of Climate change, but something even more obvious - An Uncontrolled Massive release of Methane gases in the form of unstable Methane Hydrate deposits suddenly warming to the right temperature to create massive tectonic shifts, Tsunami disasters, and ultimately a globally ecompassing cloud of flammable Methane gas that would encompass the globe in a cloud 45 feet thick, which innevitably will find a source of ignition!

But all is ok, right folks? I mean, news reports after news reports after news reports warning of things like this have been published, but my inclusion of these facts in this report doesn't mean it'll happen, so everyone just relax! People can continue to insert thier thumbs into thier favorite location of warmth and joy, and continue to provide the global elite a controlling interest in their lives.

There are many reasons the media is under instructions to deny the obvious. The establishment knows a pole shift is coming, and that such matters as crop shortages and breaking infrastructure will get worse as this time arrives. When the big quakes and disasters really start hitting, the establishment is also aware that they cannot take care of the citizens who have dutifully been paying taxes all these years. A facade of normalcy is to be projected, at all costs. The goal of those in the establishment who see themselves at the top of the pile is to deny until the last minute so that workers go to their jobs and make few demands of the government. They fear the public demanding well stocked bunkers like those the elite have arranged for themselves. They fear the public ignoring their jobs so that city services are not maintained, a discomfort to the elite. Regardless of how bad things are, media denial will be the norm.

Methane Ignorance: Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 4

Youtube Methane Documentaries:













People have to remember another major fact about methane... Thesereports do not include the methane releases from biological and urban sources!

Methane Ignorance: Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 10

Looks like Methane Ignorance wins! So now that we are aware that Methane is a real problem, shouldn't we raise our awareness levels of it up and find a solution for this before it becomes a Global Catastrophy???

reply to post by Megiddodiddo

bp couldn't contain a toilet overflowing. The reason the pressure has lowered is there is a huge crack on the sea floor relieving the well head pressure which meens more merthane and oil comming out a mach 20

reply to post by Megiddodiddo

Methane: Methane Methane Methane!

i just stopped in to see what this thread was about, the title seemed a little vague.

thanks for the collection of info Megiddodiddo ...


S&F, and i think i will read through that again, and watch all the videos,
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[edit on 15-7-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by Megiddodiddo

Score = possitive methane effects 1 negative methane effects 1

From the first day of the leak we knew that there was 300 times more Methane coming up then there were oil.

PB Oil rig survivors confirmed this and said it was normal. They always separate the methane out of the oil.. so this well is a gold mine two fold.

It is the methane not just the oil that's causing dead zones in the Gulf where thousands of animals have died. Fish breathe oxygen, not methane.

I'd say the score is more like positive methane effects 1 negative methane effects thousands - 1 count for each fish it caused to die.

Well as you guys have noted, the BP fiascoe continues!

"..and what's really scary now is that some Scientists are starting to voice concerns over the Methane being at levels That will kill millions of people. So this is no longer just an oil spill, this is a deathly hazard"

I leaned about this MSNBC interview via a recently posted thread on the BP forum entitled Matt Simmons says BP covering up MASSIVE HOLE miles away.

Matt Simmons, Founder of the Ocean Emergy Institute, makes the above statement. He also implicates the Government is complicit in this cover up!! WHOA!

but we already knew that, thus my post pertaining to Obama: The Conspiracy that binds Conspiracies is upon us!


Matt Simmons basically just verified the truth of this thread!

[edit on 7/16/2010 by Megiddodiddo]

Here's a list of potential toxic chemicals within the oil... (NOW will the folks in the Gulf region listen to me?)


Benzene

Hydrogen Sulfide

Methylene Chloride

Carbon Dioxide

Corexit

Tuolumine

Hydrogen Flouride

Butoxylene

Ethoxylene

Propoxylene

Alkoxylene

Pentoxylene

Dodecyloxylene

Hexadecyloxylene

2-Methylethoxylene

Butylene

Heterocycloxylene

Phosphorodihalidate

Ethylene

Methylene

Dimethylethylene

n-Propylene

Trimethylene

Isopropylene

2-Dimethylpropylene

Tert-Butylene

n-Pentylene

Tert-Pentylene

n-Hexylene

n-Heptylene

n-Octylene

n-Nonylene

n-Decylene

n-Undecylene

n-Dodecylene

n-Propylene

2-Vinylpropylene

n-Butenylene

3-Ethenylbutylene

n-Pentenylene

4-(3-propenyl)hexylene

n-Octenylene

1-(4-butyenyl)-3-methyldecylene

2-(3-propenyl)dodecylene

Hexadecenylene

Ethynylene

Propynylene

3-(2-ethynyl)pentylene

n-Hexynylene

2-(2-propynyl)decylene

2-Chloro-n-decylene

1-Hydroxy-3-Ethenylbutylene

2-Propyl-6-nitro-10-dodecynylene

Ethoxylene

Dioxymethylene

Dioxyethylene

3-dioxypropylene

2-methoxy-1

3-dioxypropylene

3-dioxy-2-methylpropylene

Dioxy-n-pentylene

Dioxy-n-octadecylene

Methoxylene-methoxylene

Ethoxylene-methoxylene

Ethoxylene-ethoxylene

Ethoxylene-1-propoxylene

Butoxylene-n-propoxylene

Pentadecyloxylene-methoxylene

Methyl formate

Methyl acetate

Ethyl acetate

n-Propyl acetate

Isopropyl acetate

n-butyl acetate

Ethyl propionate

Styrene

Allyl propionate

t-Butyl acrylate

n-Butyl butyrate

Vinyl Chloroacetate

2-Methoxy-Carbonylcyclohexanone

2-Acetoxycyclohexanone

Methylene Chloride

Chloroflourocarbon


[edit on 7/16/2010 by Megiddodiddo]