De-Kruse-ified emitting orb UFO from 2009

Dimensional Detective started a thread yesterday featuring a YouTube video by Alison Kruse that has been moved to the [HOAX] forum as is ATS policy...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

However, in addition to the usual airplanes and ISS footage, Alison included footage from another YouTuber, energeeeresearch (www.youtube.com...), that featured a "wormhole stargate". This footage was from a year ago and is one of only a handful of productions from energeeeresearch.

Divorced from Kruse and her nonsense I think this footage is, at least, worthy off comment in this forum.

reply to post by IAttackPeople


THank you for this thread and you get a S&F from me. I really hope this stays up longer than the formentioned thread. I would love to see what others that haven't seen this have to say.

Someone please proove to me that this UFO is actually in the sky and then post why it is an alien craft.
Is this thing displaying some extraordinary level of technology? Is it moving?

[edit on 15-7-2010 by zaiger]

Well, the object looks suspicially identical to this: CAUTION: to all UFO videographers

And at 1:04 there's something that changes in the color or brightness of the film, what this means? I don't know, but somethings not right, I would like to hear from someone that has analyzed clips like this before. Another thing that is suspicious is why does the clip suddenly stop when the "phenomena" apparently still goes on?

[edit on 15/7/10 by Droogie]

Watch this from 1:34 on and take into account the extreemly crappy quality of the home VHS cam used to film the "ufo"


watch from 3:40 on

[edit on 15-7-2010 by zaiger]

Originally posted by zaiger
Someone please proove to me that this UFO is actually in the sky and then post why it is an alien craft. Is this thing displaying some extraordinary level of technology? Is it moving?
[edit on 15-7-2010 by zaiger]

Assuming that because there is a blue sky and there's something flying in it, there's no immediate indication that is it anything "alien." It seems to interact with the air in some way, gets fuzzy, and stuff falls out of it.

Since I don't know better, I'm going to say this was an airplane or possibly a balloon brightly lit by the sun, and the things falling from it are high-altitude skydivers.

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Excellent find, seems like these clips pretty much sums it up. You are deserving of a star for this contribution.

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Good example Zaiger

That was my first thought when viewing the clip.

reply to post by Droogie


Oi oi droogie, it appears these Chellovecks got no mozg in their gullivers

S@F for your coining of the term "De-Kruse-Ified"

And it is this bit of video that seems most compelling. I have trouble
debunking, and I haven't heard other debunk theories that seem
plausible. Perhaps some out of focus technique, but to me this
remains a UFO...and one with some eerily Alien properties. Probably is
terrestrial in origin, but.....

Is anyone really supprised that a friend of Seeingufospa filmed a shuttle and called it a UFO stargate wormhole?

It might be the NOSS system.
I have mistaken that for something very strange in the past.
(NOSS is pretty strange but it belongs to us.)

reply to post by IAttackPeople


Although it seems a good video, there is not much to say about it. Looking to trails of the object, it is either a military flare action, or a shuttle mission (as zaiger showed).

Hi "IAttack..." hmmm!

Anyways. Yesterday - in the now "hoaxed" thread I actually pointed out the De-Kruse-ified version posted by energeeeresearch

And so - for clarity - in a non hoaxed thread is the entire post that I made yesterday, because basically what everyone is getting excited about (in my opinion, in this now De-Kruse-ified thread are weather balloons, which have a bad reputation... but anyway - read on).

Here is the post that I made...

"Nice post OP.
Thank you for at least posting something new, and an actual topic.

So, let's look at this.

First of all, looking at the YouTube video, the source of the original video is as follows, a user with the encouraging name: energeeeresearch
YouTube Link

He has 5 uploads on YouTube, 3 are repeats, so in total there are 3 unique videos uploaded, all showing this type of thing.

energeeeresearch lives in Irwin, PA

Further research shows the following (to quote him!)
(apologies for the spelling mistake and grammatical errors, these are his own words!):
"the video was taken with a Sony analog handy cam with 15x digital zoom and it has auto or manual focus switchable. maybe someone with more elaborate video processing equipment could enhance it or even reverse the image to give some better contrast to the objects detail and watch for the puff of smoke right before it starts to dim out which is definately in the upper atmosphere"
(again apologies for the spelling mistake and grammatical errors...)

So enough of that, to the juicy daytime videos (I am completely ignoring the nighttime portion of the video in the OPs post, because... well... seriously... come on! please don't make me shunt out teeny tiny lights in the night sky again...)

I watched all his videos, and one especially caught my eye see here:
Link to August 4th 2009 Video
(dated August 4th 2009)
Please look at about 3 minutes and 26 seconds into the video... the white object pops, emitting particles.

Pops... emitting particles, and a white object.

Then there is the case of a single white object emitting multiple other white objects (as seen in the OPs video and on energeeeresearch's multiple posted videos).

Okay, I hate to think this, but meteorological balloons, you know, weather balloons... please - read on before you tut and get all gnarly...

So - not knowing a darned thing about Irwin, PA, I look on a map, and I realize that we are looking at a town that is 17 miles from Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh...

Not wishing to labor the point, before you all start to rant about weather balloons, please look at how people use them, tie them together and launch them etc...
Link to PDF file showing Weather Balloons

Tell me - please - seriously - if a big old weather balloon popped, like one imaged in the above pdf file, leaving its other balloons there... it would pop, particles would be emitted (ie emitting bits of balloon, the helium or other gases inside), leaving the other balloons to continue.

Tell me (again - seriously) - if a bunch of balloons were making there merry way up into the sky - and they separated, would it not look like the images you see in the video(s).

I apologize for using weather balloons, as - like "swamp gas" they have a bad name...

But seriously people for a minute... given the choice between these small white objects floating in the sky 17 miles from a major university being:

a. Some intelligent device, alien, or top secret man-made stuff
or
b. errant (or even purposeful) weather balloons tied together and... sorry... popping or separating and/or popping...

Well, I am sorry, I go the meteorological way on this.

ttfn
askbaby
I am a true skeptic, not a basher.

ps. To the OP - thank you for posting... this year has been "oh so bad" on ATS, and whilst I honestly think we are looking at something launched from Carnegie... at least you have posted something worth talking about...
Peace! "

TTFN again
askbaby


(edited for style!)


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reply to post by zaiger


Star for you as that was exactly what I thought. That means hoax. I watched a launch at NASA from the shore where the locals go to view the launches at Cocoa Beach. I did not have an adequate lens so that is about what I saw as it went out of sight.

Dumb luck as I just happened to stay in a room nearby for two days. Went for a drive and saw all the people with camera's so I asked and I was just in time for a launch. The rocket had one of those breakaway boosters on each side and about the time they separated, it looked just like that through my lens. Exactly like that in fact.

reply to post by IAttackPeople


First of all IAttackPeople you must know that by posting this video again in a new
thread you are playing with fire and it's very possible a moderator will close this
thread as a duplicate wich in my opinion wouldn't make any sense because this video
is from another source not the one mentioned in your reference and besides this video
has not and I repeat has not been proven fake or debunked yet. I will like very much
to see someone to come forward providing very good evidence that this video is fake
or showing something conventional, meanwhile if a moderator close your thread I will
give you my condolences.

Now to the subject in question. You would like to know that what this video is showing
is a feature known as Splitting UFOs, very rare in Ufology but not unique. I was
watching this video yesterday and I recognized the feature when the object apparently
blurred itself and then transformed into several pieces or spheres or disintegrated
itself if you like, a very disconcerting metamorphosis that certain UFOs perform from
time to time but very rarely.

This video from Philadelphia is very similar to other ones I have in my archive mostly
from the 90's. I have some very good examples on video of this rare process, as I said
it is very rare but happened before and it is documented on video, all this kind of
sightings remain unexplained. Splitting UFOs is a feature known in Ufology, there are
evidences on video and it's my opinion this video from Philadelphia is another sighting
of a splitting UFO. Thank you IAttackPeople for posting again this video that shows
something very interesting that should be investigated seriously.


[edit on 15-7-2010 by free_spirit]

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Could you share the videos you have that are similar to this if they are uploaded to YouTube? To get off topic what was the outcome of the "UFO releases Intelligent moving spheres" footage????

Originally posted by zaiger
Is anyone really supprised that a friend of Seeingufospa filmed a shuttle and called it a UFO stargate wormhole?

I noticed that energeeeresearch doesn't give the date in July 2009, though he does give the date of the 4th for his August 2009 video.

Is he trying to hide something by not disclosing the date of the July video?

Here's the rocket and shuttle launch schedule for July 2009:
Rocket and Space Shuttle Launch Schedule

Date: June 13 +
Mission: STS-127
Launch Vehicle: Space Shuttle Endeavour
Launch Site: Kennedy Space Center - Launch Pad 39A
Launch Time: 7:19 a.m. EDT +
Description: Space shuttle Endeavour will deliver the exposed facility of Japan's Kibo laboratory to the International Space Station.

Date: July 11 +
Mission: Ares I-X Flight Test
Launch Vehicle: Ares I-X
Launch Site: Kennedy Space Center - Launch Pad 39B
Description: The Ares I-X flight test is NASA's first test for the Agency's new Constellation launch vehicle -- Ares I. The Ares I-X flight will provide NASA with an early opportunity to test and prove flight characteristics, hardware, facilities and ground operations associated with the Ares I.

Date: July 29
Mission: STSS Demonstrators Program - Missile Defense Agency
Launch Vehicle: United Launch Alliance Delta II
Launch Site: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station - Launch Complex 17, Pad B
[!-- Launch Time: **
--] Description: STSS Demonstrators Program is a midcourse tracking technology demonstrator and is part of an evolving ballistic missile defense system. STSS is capable of tracking objects after boost phase and provides trajectory information to other sensors and interceptors. To be launched by NASA for the Missile Defense Agency.

There was a shuttle launch scheduled in June, but I didn't see one scheduled for July 2009.

And why does the photographer say this: "This clip was short and to the point of what was happening up in the sky,although it got cut off short at the end." How did it get cut off short at the end unless he did it?

Suspicious.

Edit to add:

I just opened energeeeresearch's August 4 2009 video, and in THAT video he gives the date for his July video, of July 22. Odd that he doesn't give the date of the July video in the July video.

But I'm not seeing a record of any shuttle or rocket launch on July 22 2009.

I wonder if this was taken within filming distance of a skydiving school? The objects drop like skydivers falling out of a plane.

[edit on 15-7-2010 by Arbitrageur]

This was discussed yesterday. I believe the consensus was that those are flares, you can even see the smoke.

Originally posted by zaiger
Is anyone really supprised that a friend of Seeingufospa filmed a shuttle and called it a UFO stargate wormhole?

Zaiger.....

Is anyone really supprised that a friend of Seeingufospa filmed a shuttle and called it a UFO stargate wormhole?

Well, I'm certainly not surprised at all.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not