reply to post by neformore
I just got done listening to the second part of show #14. I still might be a new fan…
Again, I’m no professional critic, please keep this in mind…
Not sure what to make of the caller’s story (stories). Seems like more finger pointing going on than I have fingers to use as a basis for
The lyrics of “Whiskey Lane” seem very appropriate words of wisdom for some ATSers, in my opinion.
I’m not sure who brought this up after semperfortis was talking about “ridicule” verses “questioning”, but I believe the individual speaking
as to what the caller was doing as oppose to what the caller may have been doing or believed they were doing may have some validity to it. Civil
servants can be “briefed” to believe one thing about someone supposedly above them in their chain of command, and may even become witnesses to
something that was not as it appeared to be. However, if evaluating someone’s intentions in relation to their mental well being, and doing this for
every “whistle blower” that steps forward, then it is us who are “playing doctor” who are the ones deciding if every tidbit of information
coming from that individual is totally baseless or if sometimes an imprint of some measure of truth exists within their stories or not. And who is to
say someone who has a decade or more worth of black op (psy-ops?) operational involvement is not to be considered “mentally unscathed”. Scars may
exist where words fail to define such scars.
Concerning the discussion between nef & silk, nice balance
really nice balance in views and an adult conversation. This show is well formatted
and certainly brings to the ATS table a coherent audible medium to discuss rationally some speculative issues in a delicate manner. I like that, a
lot. When nef brings up the point of fact that maybe someone who has had any involvement in any black operation may have “mental scars” so to
speak, it is a legitimate and noteworthy possibility that I personally have no problems believing in based upon more than 11 years in the usaf, with
friends & family who have ties to informational technologies. My brother worked at the pentagon for more than a few years analyzing and reporting on
satellite imagery to his chain of command (seventh to the president). My younger brother is not an ignorant man. And my own experiences through 11
years of networking and people i met during my service, before & after, have offered me some interesting pieces to a puzzle. The experience I bring
to the table are not personal passions first and foremost, nor an agenda that is born of self glorification, but rather on subjects I have managed to
learn a little bit about by just being in the right place at the right time, or the wrong place at the wrong time, depending upon how one chooses to
look at it. I was stationed as a firefighter at nellis afb in January of 1999 following basic training and tech-school at Garland Fire Academy at
Goodfellow afb in Texas. With the exception of 44 months worth of deployments to various warzones during multiple deployments, nellis afb was home. I
am Originally from Illinois, and currently living there again (Pekin). I have managed to witness a few things and come across some information that
is difficult to relay in a meaningful way to some, and this is an understatement as sometimes some of my experiences extend past what I can conjure up
the words to define.
And, forgive me for this small confession, but …
My credibility may certainly be compromised to say the least. I have received a diagnoses of “Post Traumatic Stress Dissorder associated with
Traumatic Brain Injury and Schizoaffective Dissorder” and receive a paycheck every month from the government via the Veterans Association for more
than $2,600 every month for the rest of my life. And I feel guilty for it. All I did was decided to speak up and speak out one day about things I
disagreed with and things I wanted answers to. MY SENSES: I had witnessed on more than one occasion phenomenon that have encountered no rational
explanation for, nor can describe accurately with words, I think. So, now that ATSers know that those I may or may not be trying to “blow the
whistle on” are the ones being trusted as to the mental well-being of alleged “whistle blowers”, please keep in mind the news that is brought to
us by the drug companies that may have a pill for that.
Are there things going on that the general public may not always be fully aware of?
Look at the world economy (what is $$ spent on?) and tell me who may have bet the world economy on it?
For as long as there are those who suffer the delusions that they can control all the pieces of the puzzle, there will be those who are discrediting
the credibility of those who have a valid piece to that “true” puzzle, I think.
But I will be damned if I will let them, or any one else, convince me what senses I have cannot be trusted, whatever their credentials may be to make
such a prognosis or diagnosis may be. People (ATSers) offer different insights from various perspectives, and sometimes when we peel the distorted
truth away, or bring it into focus, we can better ascertain a simple truth: “Who am I to totally dismiss everything that anyone says?” …. “And
what does all I know thus far add up to?”.
Insert humor here:
Nice plug for Megaddilddo .. um Megaddiddo, sorry.. (GreenEyeLeo).
When (I think it was Nef) mentioned that people can be programmed through books (words) I think it may have been an understatement. But a comment
that was on the mark no less, in my opinion. And now imagine a book being used for social engineering purposes allegedly being brain fed to
generations (the bible) of beings we seemingly share more than 99.7% of the same dna with… and what results may become of so many for so many
centuries, for so many generations, of their dna being fed such information. There must be some long term effects on us genetically if evolution is
to be believed when realizing that generations worth of our own kind have been subjugated to such belief systems for generations. Ah, but who am I and
what do I know?
Maybe for some, “insanity” is the tool they bring to the table, since it is their “innocence” that is being infiltrated during discussions
they choose to participate with on ATS. No offense to the ATS motto of “Denying Ignorance”, but if we look up the accepted definitions and
reference a thesaurus, the word “Ignorant” does surface more than once.
People seem to have defense mechanisms in place at the genetic level which do not make it easy to interpret some pieces of the puzzle accurately.
That and there are social engineering obsticles in the way that seem to diminish and belittle the “ego” which is one medium we rely upon for
rational interpretation and adjustment to our environments. Those who are anti-ego … are anti what? What negative aspects of the ego exist
according to the definition of “ego”? something I often wonder.
Some ATSers may offer weird stories, or threads that seem to be a fellow ATSer suffering a “Messiah complex” or “I speak directly with aliens”
or “I am an alien” venue, but some truths may be discovered about ourselves from witnessing someone willing to engage with their own imagination
or sanity, I think. But after we pick their story apart and dissect what it is we can dissect and effectively absorb, I think we owe it to our fellow
ATSers to help them pick up the pieces, add them back up together, and re-adjust to their new surroundings where what was once inconceivable … just
became possible for the first time in their minds eye.
I’ll share a personal experience with you,
Although my credentials are verifiable, one must take into account the “condition” military/government doctors have labeled me with. And,
according to them I am 100% disabled due to mental issues stemming from being to close to stuff that went boom too many times…
So you and you alone get to decide the validity of my account of what happened one day when I was assigned to the fire alarm communication center
(FACC) at nellis afb. The date? I’m sorry, I cannot recall. It was between 2001 and 2006, of that I’m sure. It was not between May-2002 &
Dec-2002. It was not between Oct-2003 & Jan-2004. It was not between July-2004 & Nov-2004. It was not between Mar-2005 & Sept-2005. These were most
of the dates I was not at nellis during this timeframe, as I can recall.
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