posted on Jul, 15 2010 @ 06:36 PM
Originally posted by kevinunknown
Well i don’t really mean marital law as such rather military involvement in civilian matter’s. It’s more of a question for Americans but I was
wondering if you can envisage any event that would require the intervention of the military. I am sort of thinking along the lines of terrorists
taking hostages or a group taking over a oil rig and the use of Delta Force and Seal Team 6. We have done this before in the UK and i know that other
states do it however in America it is very controversial so i was just wondering if any ATSters can see any justification for it. Also anyone who
isn’t American what do you think about it.
I personally agree with it but only when it is absolutely necessary and as a last resort but sometimes i think it is inevitable. I know some of you
may fear it could bring about permanent martial law and coup or whatever else. The truth is i don’t hold such fears when it comes to the UK military
becoming involved with civilian terrorist matters.
EDIT:Sorry the OP might not have been clear enough, i am not talking about blanket martial law i am asking what people think of the military being
used in civilian matters such as terrorism.
[edit on 15-7-2010 by kevinunknown]
I've read some of the comments in regard to your question and I will answer it simply. Some actions or goals or whatever have to high of a price,
you must know your limits. Why is it that Germany makes it illegal to fly the swatzika or to say that the holocaust didn't happen. It's because
they where scarred from WWII and the Hitler regime. They know how this game is played and at first it was innoccent banter or hooligans that where
wanting to nationalize then they became a force and then a power to the point that people where scared to go against them. You look at Argentina and
the dirty war years which was a brutal police state, people disappeard and where never seen again and on and on and on. These nations and people who
have lived in a police state know what it's like and don't like the even wisps of it coming back. In the US we have never been in a police state,
and when you add in the fact that we believe that we are exceptional to all others, we don't think it could happen here. But it is, police beating
people up tazering them killing them and getting off scott free. You have the justice system designed to make money, you have local and national
politicians that use expediancy as the reason for everything over true law.
You know your in a police state when your wife or mother or sister or girlfriend comes home and she's acting different. She's dressing down more
and she's avoiding certain areas of the city and/or the town, why is that. It's because in a full fledge police state, the govt. official or
enforcer took a shine to your female love one and either threatened her or her family if she didn't do something for him. And the female knows it's
best to keep it quiet because what is her male counterpart going to do except get himself killed or his whole family killed or imprisoned.
You know your in a police state when the husband or wife or grandparents start to talk more an more about immigrating to Japan, Argentina, Canada
wherever. Because the males know that since they aren't a part of the machinery, they have no power and therefore have been demasculated. Can't
protect their women, can't protect their household. They want to get away because they know that their time will be up and they will be on the bad
end of the police state.
You know your in a police state when the biggest employer is the govt., and people jump into the jobs because they need it and want to be "safe"
from the new version of the stazi.
And you know your in a police state when you find yourself and your family staying inside alot more especially at night, for fear of all the above.
Police states is a misnomer, it should be called Bully states or Sadistic states, states that allow people to do anything they want to others without
any consequences. It all seems comfortable and makes sense, until your the one on the other side of the sadistic machine.