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reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 12:28 PM by taskforce4256

Originally posted by Redwookieaz
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Nice list. I still believe there is plenty of evidence pointing to his lying about where he was born.

I'm sure you do. And I'm still sure that no one that matters is going to do jack-squat about it.

reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 12:34 PM by mythatsabigprobe

The states will lose. Immigration law is a Federal responsibility, the states can't legislate to interfere with immigration or foreign policy. And what's worse, there's no basis to claim the Federal Government isn't enforcing immigration law. Arizona's illegal population has dropped 18% since 2008.

Illegal immigration in Arizona:

* The federal government estimated that Arizona had one of the fastest growing illegal immigrant populations in the country, increasing from 330,000 in 2000 to 560,000 by 2008.1

* Arizona has adopted other laws to deter the settlement of illegal immigrants in the state in recent years. The federal government estimates that the illegal immigrant population dropped by 18 percent in the state from 2008 to 2009, compared to a 7 percent drop for the nation as a whole.2 This may be evidence that the state enforcement efforts are having an impact.

Center for Immigration Studies

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reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 12:50 PM by Wayne60

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
The states will lose. Immigration law is a Federal responsibility, the states can't legislate to interfere with immigration or foreign policy. And what's worse, there's no basis to claim the Federal Government isn't enforcing immigration law. Arizona's illegal population has dropped 18% since 2008.

Illegal immigration in Arizona:

* The federal government estimated that Arizona had one of the fastest growing illegal immigrant populations in the country, increasing from 330,000 in 2000 to 560,000 by 2008.1

* Arizona has adopted other laws to deter the settlement of illegal immigrants in the state in recent years. The federal government estimates that the illegal immigrant population dropped by 18 percent in the state from 2008 to 2009, compared to a 7 percent drop for the nation as a whole.2 This may be evidence that the state enforcement efforts are having an impact.

Center for Immigration Studies

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You comment that the Feds are doing their jobs in enforcing the immigration laws, but the data you present says that State enforcement efforts are credited for the drop. That means that Arizona is doing the job, not the Feds.

reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 01:14 PM by chise61

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If the Arizona state law on illegale immigration is against the federal laws, then what of all of the sanctuary cities in the country which does nothing to stem the flow and offer safe haven to illegale immigrants of all walks of life?

Bolding mine.

Personally I'd like to see the Feds go after Chicago for being a sanctuary city. Nothing would make me happier than Chicago being forced to drop their sanctuary status

Edit for spelling, somtimes I type to fast

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reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 01:18 PM by Wayne60

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I actually posted a thread on this yesterday Justice: Sanctuary cities are no Arizona. The DOJ will not go after sanctuary cities.

reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 01:23 PM by chise61

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The states will lose. Immigration law is a Federal responsibility, the states can't legislate to interfere with immigration or foreign policy.

They haven't legislated anything that interferes with immigration (where does foreign policy come into play here ?).

And what's worse, there's no basis to claim the Federal Government isn't enforcing immigration law.

Where's the basis to claim that they are enforcing it ?

Arizona's illegal population has dropped 18% since 2008.

Yes because Arizona started doing things like going after employers that hire illegals, back in 07' I believe.

reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 01:28 PM by chise61

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No sadly they won't be going after sanctuary cities, it doesn't play into their agenda. Although the sanctuary cities are the exact thing they should be going after because the sanctuary cities are the ones that are actually breaking the law, while Arizona is actually trying to uphold the law.

Thanks for the link, check it out in a bit.

reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 01:34 PM by randyvs

Instead of just backing Arizona those ten should seize the rights to all
military hardware and personel within there borders and with out
hesitation immediately attack Washington D.C. And Take the monsters head so to speak. Did I write that in plain sight?

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reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 01:52 PM by mythatsabigprobe

Originally posted by Wayne60
You comment that the Feds are doing their jobs in enforcing the immigration laws, but the data you present says that State enforcement efforts are credited for the drop. That means that Arizona is doing the job, not the Feds.

Arizona is not responsible for the nationwide drop in illegal immigration of 7%. They were also not enforcing immigration law in 2009, they didn't have a law written then. Their local policies could be credited with the extra 11% drop in their state, and if so they should have just stuck with them.

reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 02:41 PM by chise61

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