posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 10:56 PM
What it comes down to in the end is that you CAN NOT STOP THEM!!!!!
You can throw all the money you want at trying to stop so called Illegals and you will never stop them.
You could position people 50ft apart all along the border and it will not stop them.
The only way you could ever hope to stop them is to make America such a horrible place no one wants to come here anymore. Long before that happens I
will be hopping the fence into Mexico and so will a lot of other people.
Like it or not. Those are the facts.
Some more illumination for all you supposedly "free thinkers". You people are so focused on the border and Mexican illegals that you do not even
realize that the vast majority of "illegals" entering this country do it through our many ports.Or on work, travel and student visas.
Oh ya and Mexican/Central & South American's account for about 20% of all "illegals" entering this country.
30% come from SE Asia, China, and the Various Pacific islands.
20% come from the former member states of the Soviet Union.
10% for the continent of Africa. Though i believe this number is way under-reported as Africans have an easier time blending in.
The remaining 20% comes from Persia, the Indian sub-continent and western Europe..
Why do your leaders have you so focused on southern border? Why are they only speaking out against those "dirty Mexicans"?
I have a hypothesis.
We (and I use the term loosely as i hesitate to lump myself in with this madness) don't actually HAVE an immigration problem.
This "problem" is just another in long list of crisis that have been fabricated by your leaders to generate fear. Like the climate change hoax, they
invent some problem that supposedly only government can fix. In exchange for "just a few more" freedoms and an obscene amount of money they can
"fix" it for you.
So i say again. You do not have an Immigration problem. Lets look at one of the big, so called arguments of the anti-illegal crowd.
"They clog up our social service programs". Welfare/food stamps, Public Schools, Hospitals etc.
Sorry, but none of these are an immigration issue.
Illegals getting welfare is a WELFARE issue. Even if you agree with the concept of welfare, i personally don't, it would be a simple enough matter to
just turn off the spigot. Don't like the "illegals" getting the welfare... Stop friggin giving it to them. According to polls you guys have 80% of
America with you. Surely your government would listen to you, right? Good luck with that.
Schools being forced to admit the children of "illegals" is not an "illegal" immigration problem. Mandatory public schooling is the problem. If
you people would stop sending your children to them, there would be no public schools. As it should be. Mandatory public schooling is the biggest
farce yet perpetrated upon supposedly free people in the history of freedom itself. Public schooling has nothing to do with education and everything
to do with indoctrination, obedience and conformity. Oh, and it is funded by theft. Get rid of mandatory public school and you not only solve the
"illegal" problem but you solve a great many others as well. With the added benefit of having a nation of well educated, highly responsible,
critically thinking adults with TRUE freedom not this illusion of freedom you have now... in a generation.
The idea of the government telling a private business who they have to serve or not serve. Or how they have to do business. Is so antithetical to the
idea of freedom that every freedom loving person should recoil in horror at the thought. Hospitals being forced to care for "illegals" is a
government sticking it nose where it don't belong problem, not a "illegal" immigration problem.
Now lets address the reason i put quotation marks around the word illegal when i use it, and another of the anti "illegal" immigration planks.
"But they are breaking the LAW"
Law in this country is a joke. The enforcement of laws in America is so arbitrary it is laughable. Enforcement ultimately comes down to the person
doing the enforcing. Since people are fallible, enforcement is also fallible. If a cop hates drugs he is going to enforce drug laws, if he smokes pot,
he isn't going to enforce pot laws. The same cop may hate coc aine and would enforce that drug law. See, arbitrary. Immigration laws are just as
The process to "legally" immigrate to this country is bull#. It amounts to a bribe. Do you know how much it costs to "legally" immigrate to the
U.S.? close to 10 grand. Why do people have to pay this bribe to be eligible to live here? Who do you think get shafted by this policy? Poor people
Why do they have to take all those stupid citizenship tests? Tests i might add, that i doubt 75% of high school graduates could pass. Who do you think
that policy discriminates against. Uneducated people?
So who do the immigration laws actually discriminate against? Looks like poor, uneducated people to me. Rich, educated people don't have any problems
immigrating here. So when you say "but their illegal". What you should be saying is "I don't want the same freedom for today's poor, uneducated
people that was afforded to MY poor, uneducated ancestors." Mighty christian of ya.
The last so called issue i will address is the "Their taking our jobs/ruining our economy"'
Complete and total humbug. I'm sorry, but if an uneducated person from another culture, who cant even speak the local language takes your job...you
should probably be deported.
Personal story time... are you not so excited!?
I work in the oil biz. On the drilling/exploration side. I work as a field geologist mapping oilfields for oil companies. Part of that job is living
and working on site while drilling. Looking at the cuttings coming up, monitoring gas and oil shows etc. I have a lot of interaction with the actual
drilling crews, called roughnecks. In my experience the Mexican crews are generally superior to non-Mexican crews in every way.
Generally the crew consisted of 5 people, 4 of which knew no english at all or maybe a few words. 1 person knew enough english to be the interpreter
for the rest. These crews are highly sought after, and there is a good reason they get work over say white crews. Nope that reason. They make they
same wage as every other roughneck in that area does. Roughly 15-30 bucks an hour depending on the drilling company. When the oilfield slowed way down
in 2008-09 all the mexican crews were still working when over 200k oilfield personnel sat around and collected unemployment.
This was so because of one simple reason. They work harder, bitch less, and are generally more grateful. Between connections a typical mexican crew
would be working cleaning the rig, maintaining the rig and other equipment. They were always busy. They would even go so far as to clean the trailers
we lived in and wash our vehicles. They were friendly as hell. They all ways cooked enough food for everyone on site. They are real big on family,
loyalty, and hard work. Most white crews,(there are very very few black people in the oilfield sadly) during this time would be sleeping,drinking,
doing drugs, fighting, running there mouth etc. I know its just anecdotal but it's my experience with "illegals" in my workplace.
The "they are ruining our economy" argument is a logical fallacy. The idea that "illegals" don't pay taxes is ludicrous. Most have fake papers,
fake DL and SS card etc. They still pay all the same taxes you do. The big difference is, that even if they lived and worked here for 20 years and
paid into the system the whole time they can never get SSI, social security, non of it. So they pay into the system but place no drain on it. That
seems like it adds to "society" to me.
Even the ones who don't pay into the system through payroll deduction still get taxed when they spend money. Just about everything you buy has some
form of tax, tariff or other hidden cost. Such as the hidden cost of paying for retarded government regulations. Again, since they are labeled
"illegal" by society they pay into the system for "services"(# what a joke government "service" is) they won't/can't use those services for
fear of getting deported. So they are in fact paying "there fair share" whatever the # that's supposed to mean.
There, laid it out for ya neat and simple.