reply to post by stuncrazy
Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by madnessinmysoul
ok seeing as how that one's not gonna get ya.
i'll let you in on a secret, i believe the Fatima apparitions and any apparitions are a great deception myself, but simply because i know the
Catholic church plays for the bad guys.
Lying for Jesus are we?
OK i'll give you a series of findings.
these have been proven and can be proven time and time and time and time again.
Alright, I'm going to ask for the proof.
and the overwhelming odds of these being mere luck is astonishing.
Are they greater than the odds of a deck of cards that I have under my bookshelf being in the order they're currently in? What about the combined
odds of all of the decks of cards (maybe half a dozen) being in the order they're currently in?
(52!)^6 = (8 x 10^67) ^6 = 4 x 10^407
This is why I made a thread about probabilities for Origins and Creationism.
Also, how do you calculate these odds? What's the equation used and how did you come about it?
i am a man of reason just as yourself my friend. i question everything and everybody it's the analytics of my mind. I've had my experiences in life
where i know without a question in my mind that there is a God.
Experience isn't a reasonable basis for anything unless the experience can be recreated under controlled conditions by several others.
the only reason i push others to meet him, well he's my best friend. he's a great listener, his wise words are very important to me in this life we
trek. he is the ruler (guide stick) by which i judge myself and hold myself accountable. i love knowing God, and i wish it on absolutely everyone.
i'm not trying to be pushy i respect the views and perspectives of everyone. i just love spreading the love.
Well, I'm sure you're quite sincere. I'm not going to say otherwise. Of course, I still don't think you're correct.
1. Google Heptadic structures in the bible there's plenty of them. it's a task Sir Isaac Newton first tried to tackle and prove, but seeing as he
didn't have the luxury of a computer he could never fully see the grand scheme of it. (this has nothing to do with bible codes if that is what you
If only Newton had devoted the time he spent on the Bible to the natural world...
Heptadic structures are mathematical wizardry based around deceitful inputs. Of course, if you'd like to prove it to me, I'll gladly listen.
(By the way "Google _____" isn't something you say on this or any other discussion forum when you're trying to prove something.)
2. when the genealogy from Adam to Noah is presented in Genesis 5 when each name is put by it's original Hebrew meaning. it gives a short synopsis of
the story of christ i'll put it down here for ya
Time to break out a translator...
adam = man
No argument here.
seth = appointed
...I didn't find that one...Strong's doesn't even list that meaning.
From Strong's Concordance
Seth = "compensation"
It can also mean 'buttock'
enosh = mortal
So now we have: "Man compensation/buttock man"...
...this is sounding dirty.
kenan (cainan bad translation) = sorrow
Actually, it means possesion
Where are you getting your translations from?
"Man/blush compensation/buttock man possession"
mahalalel = the blessed God
Nope, praise of God
is a more appropriate translation.
jared = shall come down
Close, but it means descent
, so you're adding unnecessary
enoch = teaching
Completely off, as the translation means dedicated
methuselah = his death shall bring
That's not even close! It meansman of the dart
lamech = despairing
What? It means powerful
noah = comfort, or rest
This one is a-ok.
so from adam to noah their names literally mean. man (is) appointed mortal sorrow (but) the blessed God shall come down teaching(.) his death shall
bring (the) despairing comfort/rest.
Or, for accuracy: "Man compensation man possesion praise of God descent dedicated 'man of the dart' powerful rest."
Hmm...doesn't seem to have the same meaning there.
i can go all days with the miracles the bible has within it. but i'll just give you these for now.
That's not a miracle, whoever gave you that clearly didn't bother to do their research and you never bothered to check it out for yourself. I knew
it was wrong because I was already aware of the meaning of Methuselah
as for the second question though i know your going to say that these names can be translated differently which is absolutely true, but the fact
remains that these names can be translated this way as well.
Well, I didn't actually find the translations for most of them. Can you please source your translations? Mine come straight from Strong's
if just a single one of these names were different then it would ruin it all. so explain this one away as coincidence. i've got plenty more.
Well, I've yet to see the source for where you got those erroneous translations. And correlation doesn't equal causation.
the word coincidence can only hold so much value. like how people claim that the big bang created the universe.
...no, it just ushered it into its present form. And we have evidence for it. It's not a coincidence, we actually have evidence that it happened. The
universe is entirely consistent with the Big Bang theory.
i'll give you a science experiment get a rock put some TNT in it, and blow it up you can do this as many times as you want. post a picture when you
get a perfectly round rock.
And here you said you were a man of reason, instead you're someone who speaks about what they don't understand. The Big Bang wasn't actually an
explosion of something, it was the expansion of both matter and the fabric of our universe simultaneously. For a great period of time our universe was
essentially liquidish debris until the fundamental forces of the universe acted upon what was there.
You just presented a Straw Man argument which shows that you're either ignorant of the Big Bang theory due to a lack of education on the subject or
being deceived by others or you're simply being deceived yourself.