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reply posted on 14-7-2010 @ 03:11 PM by justwokeup
reply to post by cLOUDDEAD




Why do you spend so much time talking about something you don't believe in? I don't believe Pokemon are real, but my life doesn't revolve around me not believing in Pokemon.


If the question was open to all atheists....Probably because human beings don't normally shape societies, fight wars, blow themselves up, stone people to death etc over belief in Pokemon. [Although a post apocalyptic society that did would make an amusing story]. They have done and continue to do all of these things because of belief in a god and their interpretation of his will as passed down by prophets.

One day we will kill our belief in deities or our belief in them will kill us. At our rate of progression in technology we are running out of time to do the former.

The strident atheist are the ones who think its not too late. I tend to think it probably is.


reply posted on 14-7-2010 @ 03:12 PM by Arcane Demesne
reply to post by Hail2theChippewa



Haha. You just quoted a Greek Philosopher (check out my signature :up.

I have to agree. Philosophy class is what really kicked it off for me. It also didn't help that my Grandfather is a 32* Scottish Mason of the Esoteric branch, an archeologist, and religious connoisseur. In fact, I had already disbanded myself from Christianity just before an Intro to World religions class. There were A LOT of upset students in that class learning about the history and origins of their cults. I was lucky enough to have separated myself before an onslaught of that nature.

But yes, a deep rooted study in philosophy with a healthy dose of ancient religious studies can very well put one on the fast track to Atheism. It also, be it for better or worse, put me on a more spiritual track. Not so much afterlife, but more, trying to stay in tune with everything in the here and now. That's what's truly important.



reply posted on 14-7-2010 @ 04:43 PM by ptmckiou
Here is a great quote regarding everything in the universe is made of energy.
For further details look up string theory in quantum physics.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Everything is energy!
This is the beginning and this is the end.

Every child in modern civilisation learns the concept of atoms from their parents even before kindergarden. The theory is far spreaded and is commonly accepted.
So, out of what is an atom in the easyest structure?
One proton(+) and one neutron build up the core wich is surrounded by one electron, attracted by one electron(-). They are in continous, neverending movement around their counterparts, because of their opposite charging and other, for us unimportant, forces .
So, out of what is a proton (or electron, or neutron is irrelevant for understanding this)?
Quantum physics tell us they where made out of different parts, called „quarks“. In the last years this also became public knowlege. I dont want to lose much words about it.
So, out of what is a quark? I don´t want to get too deep into the matter, but if you divide up all parts into the smallest possible, what do you have left? Eh?
Yeah right, energy! Pure energy, vibrating in frequency! This is what is called the string theory. Not proven, yet, but has the most followers and is more and more accepted by sientists and on its way to be proven by LHC at CERN.
Everything is energy. Even the smallest peace in space, until up to the universe itself is made out of the very same fundamental, vibrating energy. And that this energyparticles are inextricably linked and reached a higher state, is out of question. Rays, waves, matter, planets, stars and the wonder of life, which includes your body and your soul, are proof enough.


reply posted on 14-7-2010 @ 05:25 PM by hippomchippo
Originally posted by ptmckiou
Here is a great quote regarding everything in the universe is made of energy.
For further details look up string theory in quantum physics.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Everything is energy!
This is the beginning and this is the end.

Every child in modern civilisation learns the concept of atoms from their parents even before kindergarden. The theory is far spreaded and is commonly accepted.
So, out of what is an atom in the easyest structure?
One proton(+) and one neutron build up the core wich is surrounded by one electron, attracted by one electron(-). They are in continous, neverending movement around their counterparts, because of their opposite charging and other, for us unimportant, forces .
So, out of what is a proton (or electron, or neutron is irrelevant for understanding this)?
Quantum physics tell us they where made out of different parts, called „quarks“. In the last years this also became public knowlege. I dont want to lose much words about it.
So, out of what is a quark? I don´t want to get too deep into the matter, but if you divide up all parts into the smallest possible, what do you have left? Eh?
Yeah right, energy! Pure energy, vibrating in frequency! This is what is called the string theory. Not proven, yet, but has the most followers and is more and more accepted by sientists and on its way to be proven by LHC at CERN.
Everything is energy. Even the smallest peace in space, until up to the universe itself is made out of the very same fundamental, vibrating energy. And that this energyparticles are inextricably linked and reached a higher state, is out of question. Rays, waves, matter, planets, stars and the wonder of life, which includes your body and your soul, are proof enough.

Sounds like what the bleep do we know.
You do know the footage of most scientists in that movie were heavily edited to try to make it sound semi religious?
www.yelp.com...
Here's a nice link for you to review.


reply posted on 14-7-2010 @ 05:42 PM by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by ptmckiou




Since our thoughts form reality


Since when? Our thoughts might, sometimes, be reflections of reality but they are not reality themselves. If thoughts did form reality wouldn't we have found a firmament in the sky when we tried to reach the moon? And what of unicorns, people do plenty of thinking about them, shall they burst into existence as well? Or perhaps they will only exist after I die if I'm thinking about them at the moment of death

This, it seems to me, is just another form of Pascal's wager, another warning from the superstitious that we ought to be careful what we wish for. Do you honestly think atheists want there to be no after-life? Atheism is not about what is desired or ideal it is about what can be shown to true. Gods, and the afterlife, have no evidence supporting them and yet the theists continue to make claims about them both being real.

When we die all brain function stops, body functions stop creating energy and all the other energy that remains dissipates into the dead matter around it - there is no evidence to suggest a continuation of consciousness after death. This is hardly ideal and very few want it to be true but we do not reject a truth merely because it is uncomfortable or frightening. You can choose to believe in an after-life to comfort yourself and shield yourself from reality but in the end that is just a placebo effect illusion meant to take the pressure of your own mortality from your mind. To believe such just because of superstition, religious teaching unsupported by evidence, or for personal psychological comfort is fine but it still doesn't line up with what we know of reality.
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