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Islam is the best DEMOCRACY (NOT Western Democracy)

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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:02 AM
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The 'egg crate' one is especially funny.


And surely if they are allowed to wave placards saying 'behead those who insult Islam' and down with 'valentines day' then SURELY we're allowed to laugh at them?

After all laughter is the best medicine.




posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:14 AM
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I'm afraid to say i don't have speakers or headphones nearby.

Can you give me a breakdown of the video please?



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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What the hell happened to this thread?



I go away for a few days on vacation and this thread turns into the biggest religious slur I've ever seen on ATS. People throwing stereo types around like it's candy. What happened to common courtesy?


Originally posted by oozyism
No one refuted the point that Western Democracy works as majority, making the minority submissive.

No one refuted the point that Islam is a better Democracy than Western Democracy.

I still stand, you guys keep falling one by one.




OOZ, Women are the minority in Islam. You keep dancing around that issue. Simply becuase people respond to your ignorance with facts and you don't like the cold hard facts you call them trolls and mention putting them on your ignore list.


And one had to be ignored because of his psychopathic and pedophilia attitude.


Speaking of psychopths,

Originally posted by oozyism
I will poke your eyes out hahahahahahahah


Hey ooz, what does this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Nothing, just like it has nothing to do with the topic. So you get drunk. BIG WOW.


You see the first picture I posted? I had a fight in that exact same location, there is a water fall in the other side, I was drunk on CODIES, 12 witnesses, you want to know how I physically fight? Ask my crazy mates who still smoke weed everyday, get drunk every day, smoke P as much as possible, probably twice or three times a week.

ETA:
Here's the full picture, when I had a the fight, he charged me like super man, one dodge, hook in the face he was down on his knees, one kick in the face (right on the nose) blood spills out, then grab him and chuck him in the water, while screaming "go for a swim bich".



That sounds like a good bit of fiction. So now OOZy is a tough guy. You chose to embrace the worst the West has to offer. I'd be disillusioned also if I ran around drunk and acted like a know nothing punk.


I know drinking is wrong, because I have drank, I know drugs are wrong because I have used them before, I know fighting for no reason is wrong, because I have fought before.


Squaring off with your girlfriend I mean mate at the park is not a real fight. So you drank and used drugs and I remember you mentioning something about an abortion or two in another thread. Seems to me that you have embraced many aspects of the West yet you refuse to acknowledge just how much you have utilized them in your life.



Wait, wait wait, what do you know about me?
After the fight, I gave him one of my cans of CODIES from my box, and said you are the man, because you had the balls the entertain 12 pussies just standing and watching.


So let's see here. You got drunk then fought for the entertainment of the other 12 "Witnesses" Sweet! It's always fun to watch two jackwagons act like idiots.


You haven't experienced life, experience gives you wisdom


That's about the only reasonable thing you've written. Yet, your experience of the West are of the worst that it has to offer.


Post some of your pictures, so we can see how old you're.. I wanna see if your breasts look like towers hahahahaha


Experiencing life here. Follow the 2010 Vacation link below in my signature if you dare...

Try to have a nice day.


[edit on 24-7-2010 by SLAYER69]



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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Holder is asked about a dozen times if he thinks that Radical Islamic Extremism has anything to do with the recent terror attacks in the US.

And every time, he dances around the simple question.

Disgusting.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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Are these pics for real?

Oozy - so what you are saying is.... You drink, you smoke, you curse, you fight, you wear our clothes, you live in our countries, you act like a westerner...

BUT

Westerners are bad for not following your oppresive religion?

Seriously.... Are you for real?



i'd have more respect for you - if you wore your own clothes, you acted peacefully, if you didn't drink or smoke or fight.... and acted .... Like a muslim.

You don't really know where you stand do you???



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by MY2Commoncentsworth
 


Ohhh theres the ignore button lol



ATS is great


Brilliant - anyone who offends you or disagrees with you or debates with you - gets ignored.

I seriously CANNOT take you or your silly religion seriously anymore.


Say no to ignorance, say no to Sharia law.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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Slayer, you took all those comments out of CONTEXT, just like those Islam haters who take one verse out of a whole chapter to prove their points.

Don't even pretend that those comments weren't directed at those who used personal insults against me.

That is as simple as it gets. Those who personally insults me, must know more about my personal life then make a judgement.

IF you read the thread which I don't think you have the time to, you would have realized the context behind those stories.

I drank, yes, I smoked, yes, I been there, done that, realized it was wrong, have given up drugs, trying to give up alcohol..

You know exactly what I'm talking about, but since it is your life style I'm talking about, you take everything out of context, to once against personally insult me.

Great, it shows how low people can go to defend their life style.

I don't deny the fact that those things are wrong, that I'm wrong for doing those things etc.

If you can prove other wise, then you have an argument, if you can't then please, don't twist my words.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by SLAYER69
 


Are these pics for real?

Oozy - so what you are saying is.... You drink, you smoke, you curse, you fight, you wear our clothes, you live in our countries, you act like a westerner...

BUT

Westerners are bad for not following your oppresive religion?

Seriously.... Are you for real?



i'd have more respect for you - if you wore your own clothes, you acted peacefully, if you didn't drink or smoke or fight.... and acted .... Like a muslim.

You don't really know where you stand do you???


When did I say Westerners are bad, ohh but you have to make assumptions right?

Well I'm saying drinking is bad. Prove me wrong.

I'm saying drugs are bad. Prove me wrong.

I'm saying adultery is bad. Prove me wrong.

Don't make assumptions, and don't make baseless accusations.

This thread is about Islam and Democracy (Western Democracy).

Which one is better?

I say Islam, because Islam allows you to choose at individual level how you want to be governed.

Democracy allows the majority to choose how everyone within the nation should be governed.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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The Taliban who want to use The Koran as the basis of their 'Islamic Democracy' as they did once before.


That is what you based your whole pose upon, and it is incorrect therefore making your whole post incorrect.

The Taliban follow their culture and Islam.

The pashtoon culture if you know treats women, the way the Taliban treated women. Heck the Quran states it is every man and woman's duty to acquire knowledge, yet the Taliban stopped women from education. Is that correct?

It is in their culture to separate Women from men, and to keep women at home and to take care of the home, and children. In the Pashtoon culture, nothing else is required of women.

That being said, it isn't just Pashtoon, Arabs also have this culture etc.

Look at Iran, they are trying to avoid culture from interfering with Quranic laws, infact Women are the majority studying science and technology in Iranian universities.

If Islam is to be followed, Quran is to be held as the constitution, anything which goes against Quran is to be abandoned, even if your dad did it, and it goes against the Quran, it is wrong, and it is not Islamic.




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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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To The OP,
As ATS gets bigger and bigger it was bound to start seein arcane/insane posts from the east such as this.

I welcome the views of Islam here..... however I see them in the same light as Christian Fundamentalists which is a stance I have no respect for what-so-ever.

The only Islam I respect and Adore is Sufism ....everything else in the Islam category is BS .......opinion made



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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In today’s progressive Iran, we don’t stone anymore (well, maybe only in the small villages and maybe just a little bit)! We are now more humane and we only hang women! Welcome to Islamic Republic of Iran. If you are a misbehaved woman, please be prepared to be hung! Islamic Republic of Iran, the regime which Barack Hussein Obama and Liberal Democrats want to negotiate with! I wonder what will they negotiate about? Which of the US cities Ahmadinejad must avoid to nuke and which women, the Islamic judicial system should avoid to hang! Liberalism is Islamism’s best friend! US Democratic Party is Islamists’ party of choice!


......the Democratic Party is Radical Islamic Extremism's party of choice.




DON'T PISS ON FREEDOM------REPUBLICANS DON'T!


[edit on 24-7-2010 by MY2Commoncentsworth]



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
Islam is the BEST DEMOCRACY, here is why:

Western Democracy works on majority, while Islamic DEMOCRACY works on individual level.



Western will not go with Islamic democracy, and Islam will not go with Western democracy... so it doesnt really matter.

Until the world evolves past religion nothing will be easy...



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
Islam is the BEST DEMOCRACY, here is why:

Western Democracy works on majority, while Islamic DEMOCRACY works on individual level.

Let's make it simple and break it down:

- Islam is the nation.

- A Muslim is the citizen of Islam.

- The constitution of Islam is the Quran.


Those three points make a perfect Democracy, because you choose whether you want to become a Muslim or not, no need for voting, no need for majority, while the minority watches and wait until it becomes the Majority etc.

Once you become a Muslim you accept the Quran as your constitution, and govern yourself, and those who want to be under Islam, through Quran, which makes a perfect DEMOCRACY.

CASE CLOSED!!

Questions and Comments invited.

PEACE!!


But this "muslim democracy" has never worked ..there has never been equality in the muslim world, but not in any other kinda world society either.

Quoran is based on Abrahamic tradition that actually presents a False God Jahve(allah) is the "devil", not the Real Creator of all .. i don't mean to offend anyone with this, but this is just how it is.

If jahve-Allah was the Real Creator of All, why weren't they able to tell the true shape of our planet in those books but present a flat Earth-theory?! ..and this is in the Quoran also..their nature's sciencentific reality is quite off in those abrahamic-books ..why is this so if it is from God?

I'm not gonna start following a religion when it's god doesn't even seem to know the shape of this planet ..it is a control religion, by the ruling elite just like all worlds religions are, and presents a False God and Order.

It was a widely used custom to conquer land and wealth in the name of some god in many cultures ..if you accept the religion, you pay taxes to the priest-kings etc ..if you don't, they take all you have and slave you or kill you.

..quite handy, the theocratic elite always got payed.

I have nothing against Muslims or Christians as people ..or anyone else ..but i am quite anti-religious, cause all the world religions present a false reality, so a false god.

Peace. ..and i hope i didn't offend with this



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 02:38 PM
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Iranian Woman Protester (outside Iran): Women hang in Islamic Iran!


Notice how the woman holding the sign seems to instinctively cover her face.......as if someone would recognize her back in Iran and torture her family.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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So oozy my friend, would you make your wife wear a burqa, and would you make a false allegation against her to have her stoned to death?

Please answer.

And you still haven't answered my question as to what you have against restaurants and nightclubs.........What do you have against restaurants oozy?.....(edited here to add).....Is it the smell of bacon sizzling on the grill when you walk into the restaurant?....uuuuhhhhmmmmmm...all that grease and fat...uhmmm delicious!.....

Does the aroma tempt you with its fresh hickory smoked flavour?....uuuuhhhhmmmm.

I do not eat pork as a rule. It's the hardest thing the body has to digest. But I will enjoy bacon or ham every once in a while.....Does that make me an infidel oozy?....or do you think that I am pig for what I like to eat?

So is this why you hate restaurants?....or is it because you can't force the women to go into the kitchen and cook there?....or is it because your wife looks so silly trying to eat spaghetti through her burqa?....or is it because that makes you look like an animal?....or do you cling to the pork thing to divert attention from all of the above?

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