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Aliens and UFo's What a joke.

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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 01:38 AM
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The whole alien and UFO mix was created to cover up top secret technological developments namely in air and space travel.

I know people personally that have worked in the 70's and 80's who's job was to push outlandish stories of aliens and ufos into the public to cover and smear the truth that people indeed were seeing UFOs but in the exact meaning of the acronym; Unidentified Flying Objects.

I can go on but the truth is that these crafts are man made and the stories of aliens and ufos are meant to discredit the witnesses who viewed these craft.

Today there are multiple websites who focus on UFO's and like to mix Aliens into the forum. These sites are not only to keep tabs of what, when, who or what people saw but to also discredit the 5 W's.




posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 01:47 AM
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I'm glad you have an opinion, however yours is no more credible then those who believe in such things, such as myself.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 01:51 AM
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Wouldn't it have been cheaper if the air force had just said "Yeah, it was a UFO that crashed in Roswell but all we found were a few pieces of scrap metal."
They could have saved billions in tax payers dollars and they wouldn't have had to hire your friends to push the BS. They could saved all the money spent on project blue book and they wouldn't have to worry about disclosure now because everyone would see their new craft and say "Hey, there goes another UFO, Man! I'm tired of seeing those things."



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 01:52 AM
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So, just to get this straight...

You know some people that know, saw, or did some stuff?

How exactly is that different than someone relaying a UFO sighting/story from someone that knew some people that knew, saw, or did some stuff?

I mean, from a logical standpoint alone, without citing a single source or actual person, you're kind of falling into the same trap, don't you think?



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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Great point CHICUFO.... No seriously though guys "I know" a bunch of people that come on to these forums and say things to persuade you not to believe in aliens so that the gov. can keep studying them "secretly". Cough Cough. =P



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
I know people personally that have worked in the 70's and 80's who's job was to push outlandish stories of aliens and ufos into the public to cover and smear the truth that people indeed were seeing UFOs but in the exact meaning of the acronym; Unidentified Flying Objects.


I know people personally who know your people personally and the people I know personally say the people you know personally are lying to you.

Show your work.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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Meh....

2nd line




posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:04 AM
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Dear Shadow Herder

Ok I will bite on this one, just one question.

Why in the name of GODS LITTLE GREEN APPLES is what they had in the 40’s still so secret??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by Shadow Herder
 


Dear Shadow Herder

Ok I will bite on this one, just one question.

Why in the name of GODS LITTLE GREEN APPLES is what they had in the 40’s still so secret??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


WOW... What a dumb question. Dont you know how secret weather balloons are? Geez, comon dude.... TOP SECRET STUFF!



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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That doesn't explain all the ufo and alien accounts that happened for hundreds and thousands of years prior to the 1940's. Did your friend of a friend happen to explain those away too?



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
The whole alien and UFO mix was created to cover up top secret technological developments namely in air and space travel.
I can go on but the truth is that these crafts are manmade and the stories of aliens and ufos are meant to discredit the witnesses who viewed these craft.


Thats quite interesting, do you think that there was already a cover up of such manmade top secret crafts far before or at least around 1710, because I get the strong impression that the object painted by the Dutch painter Aert De Gelder looks very much on such u UFO/UAP we see today to me?




"The Baptism of Christ", by Dutch painter Aert De Gelder, 1710, Fitzwilliam Museum, Cambridge, UK

In the foreground of a hilly landscape, Christ is baptised by St. John, amid a circle of onlookers. The two figures are brilliantly lit by rays from the Dove high above, against general darkness. (from the Fitzwilliam Museum catalogue, by H. Gerson and J.W. Goodison)


upload.wikimedia.org...

Quite amazing is it not?



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder

I know people personally that have worked in the 70's and 80's who's job was to push outlandish stories of aliens and ufos into the public


is it that guy in your avatar? cause if so, you might want to check his credentials.

[edit on 14-7-2010 by pulsar41]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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The Egyptians, Myans Sumerians were not as secret as the USA is was with their technology!



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 03:54 AM
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I'm not sure what your meaning by posting that picture, But it has already been debunk and the UFO looking craft is actually a cloud.



[edit on 14-7-2010 by Ghost in the Machine]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by Master Shen long
Dont you know how secret weather balloons are? Geez, comon dude.... TOP SECRET STUFF!
Indeed there were secret balloons called skyhook balloons, not exactly weather balloons, though they could be made of many weather balloons tied together.

Mogul flight 4, the one that supposedly crashed in Roswell, was not just a single weather balloon, but made up of 28 of them and other components:

www.cufos.org...


According to Charles Moore, Flight 4 consisted of 28 neoprene, meteorological-sounding (i.e., weather) balloons attached to a 600-foot-long master line of braided nylon cord, three ML-307B rawin radar targets, possibly one or more silk-canopy parachutes, and a variety of test equipment such as a sonobuoy microphone, radio transmitter, dry cells, and plastic containers holding solid and liquid ballast. All components and systems were ordinary off-the-shelf items; only the Mogul program objective was classified.


Here's an interesting article from a guy who worked on the secret balloons:

The Cold War’s Classified Skyhook Program: A Participant’s Revelations


Welcome to the arcane world of classified Skyhook programs and Cold War intrigue. In this review, I hope to reveal many of those once-classified programs, how they generated UFO mythology, and why that relationship has not been fully addressed.

I write from a thirty-five-year professional career as a Skyhook balloon specialist and direct experience with most of the programs in these revelations. I was also an investigator for a special Project Blue Office and years later worked on the Pentagon Roswell report.


I doubt these balloons explain everything some people claim they do, but I suspect they do explain some things, like the incident where Capt Mantell died chasing a UFO that was apparently one of these secret balloons.

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Arbitrageur]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 04:37 AM
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I can go on but the truth is that these crafts are man made and the stories of aliens and ufos are meant to discredit the witnesses who viewed these craft.


sorry but your wrong saying all ufo's are man made. i had a close encounter experience with a ufo that was not anything made by humans.

are some ufo's man made ? probably

has the government faked some ufo storys and used the ufo subject as a cover for secret projects ? yes

is this thread a trolling motor ? yes


[edit on 14-7-2010 by easynow]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by Ghost in the Machine
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I'm not sure what your meaning by posting that picture, But it has already been debunk and the UFO looking craft is actually a cloud.




and i've already debunked a nearly identical debunking video

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Paraphrased for clarity:

As both videos mentioned, ancient artwork used much symbolic anthropomorphism in their carvings and paintings.

They depicted the sun and moon as people/chariots/etc, and because of the way they were consistently drawn, people could quickly identify the two.

Now . . . they anthropomorphically represented the moon and sun in human forms symbolically-

-it is not a stretch to say that they depicted Flying Saucers through symbolic anthropomorphism as Divine Light/Divine Clouds/Angels/G*d in the same way .

In fact it's a hell of a lot more logical.

So you see, both videos debunk themselves and it’s actually the other way around.

The Flying Saucers in the paintings I mentioned are not Angels/clouds and the Angels/clouds in the “normal” paintings are actually the traditional anthropomorphic symbolic representations of Flying Saucers.

[edit on 7/14/2010 by JPhish]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder

I know people personally that have worked in the 70's and 80's who's job was to push outlandish stories of aliens and ufos into the public to cover and smear the truth that people indeed were seeing UFOs but in the exact meaning of the acronym; Unidentified Flying Objects.





Do you?

Prove it.

[edit on 14-7-2010 by -Blackout-]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:34 AM
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i've already debunked a nearly identical debunking video


According to who? That is your own opinion.



-it is not a stretch to say that they depicted Flying Saucers through symbolic anthropomorphism as Divine Light/Divine Clouds/Angels/G*d in the same way . In fact it's a hell of a lot more logical.


Well considering that divine light, divine clouds etc are all found within the bible (Note all paintings in the videos are religious in nature) and creatures of non-human decent are not, In actual fact it is more likely that what is depicted in the paintings are variations of divine beings, Not extraterrestrials.



So you see, both videos debunk themselves and it’s actually the other way around


I wouldn't say debunk each other. Both videos have contradicting facts which can be considered true in both videos.



The Flying Saucers in the paintings I mentioned are not Angels/clouds and the Angels/clouds in the “normal” paintings are actually the traditional anthropomorphic symbolic representations of Flying Saucers.


Really? In comparison to what? Please don't use here-say. Back your statement up.




posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Ghost in the Machine
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I'm not sure what your meaning by posting that picture, But it has already been debunk and the UFO looking craft is actually a cloud.


You mean that it is being attempted to debunk it, but if you see a light beam emitting cloud in it, it’s alright with me.



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