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Sweden Bans Homeschool and more

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posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 02:37 PM
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i was just emailed this link
www.thenewamerican.com...


The Kingdom of Sweden took a dramatic turn toward totalitarianism with the adoption of a sweeping new education “reform” package that essentially prohibits home schooling and forces all schools to teach the same government curriculum.

The draconian 1,500-page law — deceptively referred to by the Swedish government as “The new Education Act - for knowledge, choice and security” — was approved by Parliament last week amidst strong criticism and opposition. When it goes into effect next year, the entire educational system will be transformed, and alternative education abolished.


Remind me not to visit Sweden. I will never spend my money there. It would be a tragedy if the US adopted this same sort of law... although it seems we are getting closer and closer all the time.




posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by toolstarr
It would be a tragedy if the US adopted this same sort of law... although it seems we are getting closer and closer all the time.


Whenever you see these "pilots' in other countires it is a safe bet that the US is not far behind.

Education, in general, is a shame these days, no matter the insitute. The printed materials are narrow and shallow.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 02:56 PM
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...pertinent info from the op's news article...

“[Religious schools] can’t make any children to pray or confess to the God, but they will still be allowed [to exist],” Education Ministry press secretary Anna Neuman told The New American in a telephone interview. Essentially, there will no longer be any difference between “private” schools and government schools, she explained. And there will be no other option.

In addition to abolishing any remaining distinctions among schools, the new education act also prohibits home schooling for religious or philosophical reasons. Home education can be allowed only in “exceptional circumstances” like extreme bullying, Neuman explained. Lawyers have said the new condition basically means never.


...more info...
www.sweden.gov.se...



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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Parents can still review the material the kids are studying at night, and provide guidance and context to their kids so as to help prevent brainwashing.

The State can't prevent you as a Parent from expanding on the state sponsored education package.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 03:01 PM
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Before you criticize Sweden too much, perhaps they abolished homeschooling not because they are trying to install a totalitarian system, but instead because homeschooling isn't compatible with how school is done there.

For example, homeschooling is illegal in Germany; not because the government wants to eliminate peoples' choices, but because homeschooling isn't compatible with the way school is done here. There are three different types of high schools and certain ways things are done in those schools and that can't be replicated in a home environment. (Not to mention that very, very few parents are actually qualified to teach the stuff that they would have to teach in a home-school environment.)

Every school teaching the same thing isn't necessarily a bad thing either. When every school has the same curriculum, every student learns the same thing. Just sayin'.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Have to love the attempt at drama with


The Kingdom of Sweden took a dramatic turn toward totalitarianism

Sweden has at most 200 home schooled students and only about half of them do it legaly. It has never been easy to do (required to apply every year for permission) because the Swedes do not think being home schooled can match what they offer. They think all children should have a good solid education and that home schooled students will not get that. Maybe they are right, maybe not but, to try and tie them to the USSR or Nazi Germany as the article does moves it from being dramatic hyperbole to down right silly.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by toolstarr
i was just emailed this link
www.thenewamerican.com...


The Kingdom of Sweden took a dramatic turn toward totalitarianism with the adoption of a sweeping new education “reform” package that essentially prohibits home schooling and forces all schools to teach the same government curriculum.


Remind me not to visit Sweden. I will never spend my money there. It would be a tragedy if the US adopted this same sort of law... although it seems we are getting closer and closer all the time.


While I apprieciate your post and what you are expressing about the Goverment and Education system .There is no need to down the whole country and it's people .My wife is Swedish , her and her family are amongst the most beautiful and warmest people you could ever meet .I have been to Sweden and the people are wonderful . Your problem is with the people running the country not the country it's self .The Swedes are very progressive people and they take a stand on moral highground quite regularly . They were one of the first to condem Israel and bouycotted their ships on the docks after the flotilla incident .

OP your problem rests at the feet of the UN and Unesco . They are the ones forcing the Education doctrine on nations around the globe . The UK , Australia and New Zealand are facing the same pressures . So are you going to bouycott them too ?



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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I mean no offense to the people of Sweden. My issues are with the government. But the thought did occur to me that their educational system is outstanding - compared to the US - and maybe this was all done in good will.

I just do not want to see something like this in the USA. I know so many people that homeschool and private school. The public education system here is pretty much broken. and I would hate to see the broken system forced on our kids.
and again, I was reacting out of anger when i said I wouldn't spend my money there. my apologies.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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I have always been suspicious of home schooling, why do parents want to isolate their children



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by dizzylizzy
I have always been suspicious of home schooling, why do parents want to isolate their children

there are lots of reasons. Some are due to bullying, some are religious, and some are because parents disagree with the crap that is being forced down their kids throats just to satisfy the state exams.
There doesn't seem to be much true learning going on in public school, imo.

And most homeschool families make sure to let their kids socialize with others kids through community groups, church, other homeschoolers, public parks, and whatnot.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by dizzylizzy
I have always been suspicious of home schooling, why do parents want to isolate their children


I've always been suspicious of sending cops to round up children and drag them to a building to "learn" the "mandated" material then levy fines and criminal charges against the parents.

Then, I'm suspicious of anything that leads to force and violence as a means of execution. Taxes make me a damn might suspicious. Maybe not the taxes themselves as much as the gun that's to my head to encourage payment of said taxes.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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NO one should be forced to be told what to think, especially with regard to education.But it seems propaganda must round up an audience by force, in order to make itself legitimate, so it seems an attempt to control what people are allowed to think or understand , to force them to be subjected to government propaganda, since once they break away they often never come back to these kinds of socialistic solutions.




posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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Sweden enjoys one of the highest standards of living in the world. They have big, big government, and fairly high taxes, but other than that, they seem to have a pretty good lot. "Forcing" kids to attend their excellent schools hardly sounds repressive to me.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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I think no matter the country, children are going to believe what they want to. They will learn one thing in school, whether that is public, private or home school, and then turn on the TV or radio and hear another thing. To me, there is no way to limit what we teach children. It may help, but everyone's opinion ends up being different in the end. Check out the US government site below and see how different states are functioning in regards to schools.

www.ed.gov...

[edit on 14-7-2010 by jlasserton]



posted on Jul, 15 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
For example, homeschooling is illegal in Germany; not because the government wants to eliminate peoples' choices, but because homeschooling isn't compatible with the way school is done here. There are three different types of high schools and certain ways things are done in those schools and that can't be replicated in a home environment.


I don't understand this at all.

The German government is clearly eliminating people's choices by forcing them to conform to their system.

To say that ''certain things can't be replicated in a home environment'' just reinforces the accusations of totalitarianism.

It appears what children can and can't be taught is defined by the state, and anything that deviates from how the state decrees children should be taught, is cast as illegal.



Originally posted by octotomNot to mention that very, very few parents are actually qualified to teach the stuff that they would have to teach in a home-school environment.


In what sense do you mean ''qualified'' ? As defined by the state ?

What you seem to be implying is that the state has overall control of children, and the parents have to give up their rights to educate their own children to the best of their abilities, because the state knows best, and the state has absolute jurisdiction over what's ''right'' to teach children.


Originally posted by octotom
Every school teaching the same thing isn't necessarily a bad thing either. When every school has the same curriculum, every student learns the same thing. Just sayin'.


Man, that's circular reasoning.
You're relying on the assumption that the curriculum is best for children to justify every child being taught by it. It doesn't work.

Parental disagreement with school curricula is the number one reason that parents make the decision to educate their children at home.



posted on Jul, 15 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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EDIT: Double post.

[edit on 15-7-2010 by Sherlock Holmes]



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