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Suffer These Crimes in Oakland? Don't Call the Cops

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posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Suffer These Crimes in Oakland? Don


www.nbcbayarea.com

Oakland's police chief is making some dire claims about what his force will and will not respond to if planned layoffs happen tonight at midnight.

Chief Anthony Batts listed exactly 44 situations that his officers no longer respond to and they include grand theft, burglary, vehicle collision, identity theft and vandalism. He says if you live and Oakland and one of the above happens to you, you need to let police know on-line.
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 13-7-2010 by monkeySEEmonkeyDO]




posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Society is breaking down... One city at a time....

www.nbcbayarea.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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According to the article this is a partial list of crimes that will not be reponded to if the police have to lay off 80 of their cops:


•burglary
•theft
•embezzlement
•grand theft
•grand theft:dog
•identity theft
•false information to peace officer
•required to register as sex or arson offender
•dump waste or offensive matter
•discard appliance with lock
•loud music
•possess forged notes
•pass fictitious check
•obtain money by false voucher
•fraudulent use of access cards
•stolen license plate
•embezzlement by an employee (over $ 400)
•extortion
•attempted extortion
•false personification of other
•injure telephone/ power line
•interfere with power line
•unauthorized cable tv connection
•vandalism
•administer/expose poison to another



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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But:
They will show up to confiscate a veteran's guns I'll bet.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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Yes, we're breaking down, but at least this chief is doing something about it. This situation is nothing new but what is new is this publicizing this brilliant attention-getting move. More police forces, fire departments, and other critical services should probably take his example.

The chief is making a point what his force will no longer be able to respond to in person when planned layoffs happen. What's wrong with that? He's letting people know the consequences of the layoffs and telling the city what will change.

He's taken all the task his department has to do and prioritized them into a list. These items are what landed at the bottom of the list as low priority.

It appears well thought out to include only crimes not in process and crimes do not involve present or imminent danger to life or property, where police presence is really not required.

All that tends to happen is these kinds of situations anyway is that someone else gets called (like a utility company or another investigative unit). This can all be just as easily dispatched from a central location when it's reported online. A uniform with a car is not actually needed.

I think he's very smart to do this for two reasons. 1.) it makes a point to the city about the consequences of their actions in laying off officers and cutting budget and 2.) it actually is something that might make even if the layoffs weren't happening., to free officers up for really critical work. It's a GOOD thing he's letting the people know what to expect too. In many places, they just cut services and leave people in the dark.

What else would anyone have him to when faced with fewer officers and the same amount of crime? Again, smart on a few levels.

* For a few of the list items, like "grand theft" might or "interfere with power line" it should probably state more clearly that there is only crimes after the fact which do not really require police presence.


[edit on 7/13/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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I see a major rise in handgun sales soon in the Oakland area.

This may not be a bad thing!



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Of course because handguns would really help people fight those bad checks, shoot that graffiti off the walls, and turn off that loud music. Heck think how handy they'd be for getting cats out of trees. We should tell the fire department of this brilliant new plan.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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Grand Theft: Dog???

How does that game go? Steal the nearest dog at gunpoint & ride him down the highway.Be worth a few laughs.

Seriously, never heard of that crime. Pinching a dog yes, Grand Theft: Dog, No never.




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administer/expose poison to another

Wouldn't administer poison to another be classified as attempted or even full blown murder if successful. I knew criminals have been getting away with murder for years, but now the pigs are admitting it.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by acrux]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:54 AM
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I wonder how long before the OPD gets the folowing email.


Dear OPD,
The guy that tried to break into my house is dead on my front lawn, could you please forward this email to the appropriate people to have the corpse removed.

Thank you,
Law Abiding Citizen



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:57 AM
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I was shocked when I saw burglary... So, if you come home, and find someone in your house, just make sure you send that email. Crazy



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:57 AM
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reply to post by BlastedCaddy
 

Although burglary is on the list, it's got to be after the fact. I think he does need to be a little clearer with the list...or the reporter does with the story.


reply to post by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
 

Why? They just call investigators and other departments. The uniforms don't really have a lot to do in a burglary after the fact.

Again, I'm betting they don't mean burglary in progress. If they do, that's a whole different beast.

[edit on 7/13/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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The cops aren't helping things by putting the list of crimes they won't respond to out there. It just helps the criminals know what they can get away with.

The citizens of this city should go out and exercise their 2nd amendment rights to protect themselves since the the police certainly will not.

This is just the beginning, don't be surprised to see this coming to a city near you. Be prepared to protect yourselves.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Of course because handguns would really help people fight those bad checks, shoot that graffiti off the walls, and turn off that loud music. Heck think how handy they'd be for getting cats out of trees. We should tell the fire department of this brilliant new plan.


You don't get it. This is just an open invitation to crooks, theives, rapists, and murders. Once they get the idea that police presence is lowered, combined with a perceived apathy....all bets are off. You better be ready to protect yourself and your family.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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i see a lot of layoffs police chief included. if i was mayor and chief threatened the public just by saying policewould no longer respond to burglaries i would fire him so fast. yes its bad they are losing there jobs but for a police chief to threaten to not respond to burglaries is wrong. if he wanted to send a clear message to his bosses tell them that cops would stop issueing parking tickets and maybe speeding tickets in certain situations . hurt them by there pocket books



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Of course because handguns would really help people fight those bad checks, shoot that graffiti off the walls, and turn off that loud music. Heck think how handy they'd be for getting cats out of trees. We should tell the fire department of this brilliant new plan.


I laughed my ass off thanks for that!



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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It doesn't say no one will respond. It's saying uniformed officers will not respond. That's a huge difference.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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reply to post by proteus33
 

if he wanted to send a clear message to his bosses tell them that cops would stop issueing parking tickets and maybe speeding tickets in certain situations . hurt them by there pocket books
They wouldn't do that because they have to get guarantee what pay they do get at least.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by acrux]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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See, that's just it. He's trying to keep police presence at the levels it's at by cutting these instances where they're not really needed to free them up for the instances where they are. Maybe you don't get it?

I'm all for gun ownership and even own a few. However, in this case, there's no platform for it.

reply to post by acrux
 

That's a great point about parking. Wonder if that's on the list. I wonder if Oakland uses parking meter police for this though. That's usually how larger cities go...it's cheaper. Speeding however would be a higher priority.

[edit on 7/13/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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dupe post

[edit on 7/13/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Carseller4
 


See, that's just it. He's trying to keep police presence at the levels it's at by cutting these instances where they're not really needed to free them up for the instances where they are. Maybe you don't get it?

I'm all for gun ownership and even own a few. However, in this case, there's no platform for it.


I guess you are overestimating the level of intelligence of your average criminal.

Crime is a numbers game and crime is opportunity driven. Any perceived advantage (real or not) will drive up the crime rate.



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