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What Is Wrong With You America?

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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by bagari
reply to post by queenannie38
 


You are extremely naive. Do you have any idea how many wars and conflicts are going on that do not involve the US? Take a look at this wikipedia list of wars and you'll see that very few have US involvement. en.wikipedia.org... Also, speaking of Iraq and Afghanistan, these are COALITION operations, which means that many countries have been involved since day 1.

Anyone who believes that the US is the only reason that there isn't world peace is completely delusional.


en.wikipedia.org...

The US are involved in most those wars.




posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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Actually it is China who is trying to kill us slowly. All those children stuff being coated with some sort of lethal poison like lead on children's products.


But as Carlin stated in his infamous quote:


When you are born into this world you enter a freak show. When you are born in America you get front row seats.


The only thing I blame America is we have too much freedom. Just look at San Francisco. Nobody likes that place besides those who live there. I mean not even Nixon to O'reilly likes that place. Biggest freak show in America.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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It's obvious based on your bigoted slant, you no almost NOTHING of Americans and what they think/believe. Your extremist photos are not a representation of either America nor the rest of the world. I could make a photo comparison of America and take the best and the rest of the world and take the worst and make the rest of the world look HORRIFIC and the US look PERFECT.
Time to grow up, open your mind and learn about who/what Americans really are.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:54 AM
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i agree that there's really no logical excuse for allowing people to starve to death with all the money and knowledge most modernized nations have, but i also would point out to you that some of the countries in the middle east and africa, are some of the wealthiest (and poorest) per capita, and they aren't helping either. some of the oil rich nations have enough money that every citizen drives 40,000 dollar cars. the caliphates, sultanates, and etc, are so bloody rich, they probably have more money than wall street, they just don't have to tell anybody what they got and what they do with what they got.

the op is a hit piece. a bigotted, woman hating, obseity hating, white people hating, religion hating, etc hating, piece of rubbish



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 06:03 AM
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"Yes, America is in a HORRIBLE state. Many of the things you say are real but know that what happens here in the US is a warning to people in every nation. The globalists intend to do the very same things to you.

So, keep making fun of us if you like, it's all well-deserved. But prepare yourself for what's coming to your nation, you will see it's not so easy to change things once they have gotten out of hand.

Our Republic is dead. Take care to mind your own." - asktheanimals

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You've been warned, what's happened to America is now a global thing.

Thought David Icke was a nutter, well read his books he wrote a decade ago and you will see what he predicted is now happening world wide.

Welcome to the NWO. And it's not just an "American Problem" it's worldwide.

You want a real conspiracy, start researching The Bank of England. That's a real mother of a conspiracy.


The Knights Templar used the system I've just described when they created the foundations of the modern banking network back in the 12th and 13th centuries and this clearly connected with the Venetian network of the Black Nobility operating at the same time. The world financial manipulation is today coordinated by 'central banks' in each country which appear to be working independently, but are in fact working together to a common end. The Bank of England, chartered by the Black Nobility's William of Orange, has been the spider at the centre of this web and so, too, since the 1930s, has the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. Akin to the Bank of England, the central banks were chartered by the descendants of the banking families of Genoa and Venice.

www.truthusa.org...


ps: We won't be able to save your arses this time round, don't see you trying to return the favor.



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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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don't see you trying to return the favor.


the propaganda machine has been going full bore for a generation at least! there are so many environmentalists here in the usa, so many health nuts, exercise and fitness fans, so many good people, and it's all been deliberately looked over for the purpose of trying to make the people of the country look as bad as possible (and doing so by appealing to prejudices)


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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 08:44 AM
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Ya got me, we Americans love nothing but fat ugly broads lol. On behalf of my fellow citizens I'd like to thank you for your continued favor(hate), and a big up yours to whatever puny country you are from. Have a nice day.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Crimson_King

Originally posted by Protostellar
reply to post by Crimson_King
 


By posting your email your not any different than the subject of the criticisms. How avant garde.


How different is it from posting random emails from other users against Obama, Fed reserve etc every other week which is constantly applauded on ATS?


"Oh Oh They do it so I can too !! Because They do it !!"



BTW I'm not American and I still found your gross generalisations and ignorant pseudo-point rather offensive. Something about the sort of person who needs to rely on such garbage to appear to have a statement, I think... Just irks me. Well done.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Lol this has to be the most ignorant person ever with a big chip on their shoulder...perhaps denied american citizenship...

Just a few things.
How is america the only country that puts its beliefs in a god?...christianity alone is estimated to have 2 billion followers and next would be islam with over a billion. That's half the worlds population right there alone. And I even must admit that I am no longer a believer of a creator along with many other americans...however what the hell is wrong with having church's? My old church runs probably three to four missions a year to help others. They went to new orleans to help build houses after katrina and they take trips to africa and many other places to help those in need. But I guess church is such a bad thing right? What an idiotic person.

The rest of the argument is so stupid its not even funny. The rest of the world always calls on america when in need, but hates america when not. Its not like iraq ever tried invading kuwait, or russia into georgiaand Afghanistan, or the berlin wall when many of the artists in east germany would try to release their work to the united states asa cry for help, or chinas mao regime killing 20 million of his own, or the invasion of germany into many countries across europe which the us provided planes and support to Britain. The united states is a melting pot of every nation on earth. People would not come here if they were treated fairly in their own countries and were not suppressed so much with little freedoms if any at all.


 
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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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Much of the united states aid is channeled through private donations and through organizations such as church's. I dount your site takes that into consideration as I could not find anywhere on there where it says how it provides those figures.

Your arguments are sadly flawed. America still has the top research universities in the world.

One video does not prove evolution is not taught in public schools. I know for a fact that just about every public school in the area I grew up(roughly 2 million people) teaches evolution including my own.

I'm not going to keep going on because your bias shows and you clearly only have one train of thought. However, it is true that some of the greatest and most important inventions on earth were created within the us.


 
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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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It seems the originator of this post/email has a bone to pick with America. The only problem is that his aspersions are emotional observations and not facts.

If all the rest of the world is perfect and America is the fly in the ointment then it would seem an easy problem to solve.

Why doesn't the rest of the world just cut off all communication with us? No trade, no communication, no travel, no immigration.

They should just leave us to our own folly and go on advancing and progressing towards nirvana.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by bagari
Do you have any idea how many wars and conflicts are going on that do not involve the US?


yes, i do.
most of them, not all, but most, are civil wars.

New and Recent Conflicts in the World


Take a look at this wikipedia list of wars and you'll see that very few have US involvement. en.wikipedia.org...


which list are you referring to, exactly? that page is a general list of wars, worldwide, throughout history. it doesn't prove a thing, especially when you take into account that the U.S. has only existed since the 1780's.

here is a list that pertains to the U.S. (and sometimes the U.K.):
Intervention and Exploitation


Also, speaking of Iraq and Afghanistan, these are COALITION operations, which means that many countries have been involved since day 1.


what do you consider "day one"?
do you know what year the US first got involved with the affairs of Iraq?
do you know why?

and what about Afghanistan?
what year did we get involved with their political affairs?

you're right - there are other countries involved. that's irrelevant to the facts that concern the U.S. and doesn't change what has been done and what has happened as a result. pointing fingers does not excuse the hand that is pointing.


Anyone who believes that the US is the only reason that there isn't world peace is completely delusional.


we may not be the only reason but we sure aren't helping it along - not by a long shot.

with a military defense budget that dwarfs the rest of the world's, COMBINED, we have no small part in the continuing violence, strife, and warfare that is going on in our world.

and remember, we have to include any conflict that Israel is involved in, since we provide 18% of their military funding. since this money is used for the conflict over Gaza, we also share responsibility with Israel for all the violence that is inflicted upon the Palestinians.

American Conflicts of the 20th Century

From Wounded Knee to Iraq

and when we could have, and should have, butted in to actually help those truly in need...we have not.

example: Rwanda


The U.S. government was reluctant to involve itself in the "local conflict" in Rwanda and refused to label the killings as "genocide", a decision which then-president Bill Clinton later came to regret in a Frontline television interview. In the interview, five years after the genocide, Clinton stated that he believes if he had sent 5,000 U.S. peacekeepers, more than 500,000 lives could have been saved.

The new Rwandan government, led by interim President Théodore Sindikubwabo, worked to minimize international criticism. Rwanda at that time had a seat on the Security Council and its ambassador argued that the claims of genocide were exaggerated and that the government was doing all that it could to stop it.

The UN conceded that "acts of genocide may have been committed" on May 17, 1994. By that time, the Red Cross estimated that 500,000 Rwandans had been killed. The UN agreed to send 5,500 troops, mostly from African countries, to Rwanda. This was the original number of troops requested by General Dallaire before the killing escalated. The UN also requested 50 armoured personnel carriers from the United States, but for the transport alone they were charged $6.5 million (U.S.) by the U.S. Army. Deployment of these forces was delayed due to arguments over their cost and other factors.


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the genocide in Darfur is another example and it is happening right now.

i guess there isn't any oil or other treasure in Rwanda or Darfur.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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oil is not the real prize. to say we invaded iraq for oil is a misnomer, as far as i can tell. and pretty much no one wanted bush jr. to go to iraq. the american people were behind the hunt for osama bin laden. that's what bush was supposed to do, go find osama, come home

if you ask me, somebody big in the muslim community, wanted to remove the ruling muslim sect in iraq and replace it with the other muslim sect, for whatever reason. and the usa was a willing participant in this transaction, also, for whatever reason.

believe it or not, alot happens that we know nothing about and never will.


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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:16 PM
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Laugh all you want, boy, then when you're done wash my car, mow my lawn, and crawl back into your cave, too your woman with hairy legs and bad teeth. And the next time you surrender monkeys need someone to bail you out, call the UN. That ought to help.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by undo
i agree that there's really no logical excuse for allowing people to starve to death with all the money and knowledge most modernized nations have, but i also would point out to you that some of the countries in the middle east and africa, are some of the wealthiest (and poorest) per capita, and they aren't helping either. some of the oil rich nations have enough money that every citizen drives 40,000 dollar cars. the caliphates, sultanates, and etc, are so bloody rich, they probably have more money than wall street, they just don't have to tell anybody what they got and what they do with what they got.


none of that takes any responsibility from the U.S.
what they do, they are free to do, as you say.
so are we.
we should do the RIGHT thing, the HUMANE thing, just because it is the best course of action for everyone.
who cares if no one helps us feed the hungry?
the hungry will still be fed.
that's all that matters.



the op is a hit piece. a bigotted, woman hating, obseity hating, white people hating, religion hating, etc hating, piece of rubbish


that has nothing to do with it, either.
there are people out there in the world who are dying of starvation while we, the people allow our government to squander 3/4 trillion dollars a year on weapons, war, and "national defense".

starving to death is a very SLOW and miserable way to die. and life in the meantime really isn't what you'd call "LIFE".

if we aren't going to help them, we'd be better off spending some of our investment to at least take them out of their misery...and our field of view.

it would be better even than letting them starve when there is something we can not only do to help but most likely eliminate the problem altogether.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by undo
oil is not the real prize.


yes, it is.
it is now and it has been, ever since Iraq came into being.
and the U.S. has been focused on it ever since then.

Iraq has the second or third biggest oil reserve in the world, following Saudi Arabia and perhaps Iran.

we've had our hands in it, as much as possible, ever since we found out.


For the four oil giants, the new agreements will bring them back to a country where they have a long history. BP, Exxon Mobil, Total and Shell were co-owners of a British, American and French consortium that kept Iraq's oil reserves in foreign control for more than 40 years.

The Iraq Petroleum Company (once the Turkish Petroleum Company) was formed in 1912 by oil companies eager to grab the resources in parts of the Ottoman Empire.

The company was formalised in 1928 and each of the four shareholders had a 23.75 per cent share of all the oil produced. The final 5 per cent went to Calouste Gulbenkian, an Armenian businessman.

In 1931, an agreement was signed with Iraq, giving the company complete control over the oi fields of Mosul in return for annual royalties. After Saddam's coup in 1958, nationalisation came in 1972.


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more:


Iraq

1921-1922:

In order to weaken Arab nationalism, Britain blocks Iraqi access to the Persian Gulf by severing the territorial entity, "Kuwait" from the rest of Iraq.

1932:

Britain gives Iraq nominal independence. Kuwait remains a British protectorate.
1951:

Iran's Mossadegh government nationalises holdings of Ango-Iranian Company (now BP).

1953:

CIA helps overthrow Mossadegh in Iran. Shah installed and hands over 40% ownership of oil fields to US companies. SAVAK brutal state police - formed with US backing and with the help of Norman Schwarzkopf Sr.


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BP!

imagine that!!


don't kid yourself
it is all about the oil.



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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there's more oil in the usa than in iraq. and there's hundreds of different, cleaner and in many cases, cheaper forms of energy that we could be using right now anyway. the whole war for oil thing is a farce, a charade.

now if it were spice.......



www.youtube.com...

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posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I'm glad to see such a wonderful example of anti-American propaganda. I'm not going to go through the whole list, but most of the world is a collective of different forms of dictatorships. I don't care much what dictatorships think. For some time many of our leaders have, in fact, done many tyrannical things. Together with government our corporations have used propaganda and violence against the people of the United States. They own the media and feed us lies, and they wanna own the internet to do the same on a global scale. Globalism is a farce, a joke. It is a bunch of fascists and socialists, despots, and war-criminals getting together in organizations like the UN to decide hat the world should be like.

No thanks. You can keep listening to the propaganda they feed you, fall for the Typical American stereo type, I reject such notions. I'm an immigrant to this country. The whole world comes here, there's a reason for that.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


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[edit on 14-7-2010 by projectvxn]



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 07:45 PM
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Sorry, my friend, but I have some bad news for you. Despite the current state of the American economy and other troubles, the USA will continue to dominate the world state. Europe is in full meltdown, China is at an economic tipping point and however bad it is, the US is in better shape in the big picture sense than any of the "beautiful" places you are so fond of.

Oh, I also should mention the fact that the whole of Europe is suffering from negative population growth, meaning that this situation will only get better for the US as you folks continue to look to maintain a welfare state with ever fewer productive citizens.

The US, on the other hand has a positive population growth, both naturally and through immigration.

I won't bother responding to the childish rant of the OP, enough folks have already done that.

The USA is here to stay and we could care less of what you or any other person thinks. Get used to it.

How about we meet up at the Piazza down the street at the local McDonalds and have a Coke. I love seeing those big yellow arches when I travel, especially when they are carved in to 500 year old buildings - and you know what? They are always packed - by Europeans!

Get off your high horse



posted on Jul, 14 2010 @ 08:33 PM
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sorry I just have to give a GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrI'm gonna read more into this thread so I will give you that LOL

If you read my pro you will see I'm not bias LoL



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