All aboard with the empty NASA Space Shuttles!

HE doesn't type complete sentences?

This is sad to bring grammar into the argument.

Why don't you know what a gerund is?
Oh! How sad for this to be brought in.

Get out of my face you miscreant with misconception!

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The satellites are at risk for the collision in orbit because of the space debris.

They wouldn't risk a human life with space debris.

There's not any way the crew is going to be at risk, but they're faking the challenger mission.

I will not accept that there's a crew in the space shuttle.

There is way to much incoming space debris to risk a human life.
How much fear would you have knowing about the collision of space debris?

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Originally posted by Erad3

HE doesn't type complete sentences?

This is sad to bring grammar into the argument.

Why don't you know what a gerund is?
Oh! How sad for this to be brought in.

Get out of my face you miscreant with misconception!

Well you were the one who started that

If you say something about something expect people to say something about your something.
You say something about something
Therefore, people says something about your something.

reply to post by Kaifan


That is hilarious for you to post.
What a beautiful post for attacking me.


Look at past NASA missions that involve the moon landing.

These ideas are flawed in convincing a person.
NASA can fake anything they desire to conjure.

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Originally posted by Erad3

Originally posted by Tokala42
I suggest you read this and then come back, see if that helps a little.

How stuff works: Life on the space shuttle

This didn't justify the crew is on the space shuttle.

If the NASA crew walks onto the space shuttle with a camera to record the process
then the NASA crew secretly leaves the space shuttle before the lift off to escape death.
The NASA crew walks onto the space shuttle with a camera to record the process.
Therefore, the NASA crew secretly leaves the space shuttle before the lift off to escape death.


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That doesn't even make any sense, you just repeated yourself. Okay, let's address what you said in this thread shall we?

Temperature - The temperature inside the shuttle is regulated and kept within liveable range by onboard systems e.g. Electric heaters, insulation of the interior as well as pipes filled with systematically cooled water and cold plates to cool the interior when needed, there are other systems in place, I just mentioned a few.

Oxygen/Air supply - Yes the air supply is not really enough for them, this is why they carry onboard supply of liquid oxygen and nitrogen to create a mix similer to the Earth's atmosphere and pumps it into the cabin at Earth atmospheric pressure.

Debris - Debris strikes are rare and can cause major damage if it happens, but as I said it is very rare, otherwise all the sattelites couldn't be flying around up there.

I'm sure you can come up with more 'arguments' though so I don't know how much this will help this thread.

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Good Work!
You are fallacious!

Space Shuttle is not possible because rocket fuel does not take flight in space.
Space is vacuum, not air.
Rocket fuel would get sucked up into vacuum.
Therefore, Space Shuttle flying in orbit around Earth is impossible.

Also, there is the Law of Gravitational-Pulls from the Sun star.
The Earth orbits around the Sun star too fast for Space Shuttle to fly into to the Space and come back to Earth.
Therefore, Space Shuttle never make it to the Space.

This is where NASA has fooled us!

Vacuum + Gravitational-Pulls = Empty Space Shuttle

Keep up the good work!

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Originally posted by Erad3
reply to post by DerekJR321

 

The satellites are at risk for the collision in orbit because of the space debris.

You are at risk of a freak plane crash slaming into your building and hitting you in the head right now. Just because a risk exists does not mean it is likely; satellites remain in orbit for YEARS on end without being hit by space debris. Just the other night I was tracking a satellite that had been deployed by Sally Ride's first space shuttle mission over 20 years ago. It was still in one piece. The risk exists but it can be minimized.

They wouldn't risk a human life with space debris.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true. They DO risk human lives on every shuttle mission. There is always the risk that something will go wrong, space debris is just one possibility, but the odds are nothing bad will happen most of the time. The astronauts accept that risk.

There's not any way the crew is going to be at risk, but they're faking the challenger mission.

I saw challenger explode with my own eyes in person, don't you dare try to tell me they faked it.

I will not accept that there's a crew in the space shuttle.

That's because you refuse to accept evidence. ISS exists, therefore there must be a crew in the space shuttle.

There is way to much incoming space debris to risk a human life.

Wrong. You clearly over-estimate the risk. As I've said, you can find many satellites that have been in orbit for decades without any collisions.

How much fear would you have knowing about the collision of space debris?

Minimal.

reply to post by Tokala42


The crew could get off the shuttle before the take off?

Temperature

The shuttle doesn't posses the advancement in withstanding the orbits temperature.
There's no possibly way to keep them alive in space with that temperature.

Oxygen/Air supply

The Oxygen level is risk with the pressure in space.

If the oxygen level is at risk in orbit with the pressure then they'll never send a crew for the dignity of a human life!

The oxygen level is not maintainable in that condition of orbit.

Debris

The satellites are at risk for collision with the space debris.
There's a high risk for a collision at any second.
There 's constant debris that's hitting the atmosphere.
If there's debris coming through the earths atmosphere then they're not sending any humans into space.

NASA tells you that the space shuttle can collide with space debris.
Would you be going into orbit with the risk of death?

Why would they risk a human life with thousands of things that can go wrong with the program?



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If there's that much risk for disaster then NASA will never send any human crew in space!

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[edit on 15-7-2010 by Erad3]

Originally posted by Erad3
Why would they risk a human life with thousands of things that can go wrong with the program?

Just because you can't understand the need to explore does not mean no else can either. Astronauts accept the risks, I would GLADLY accept the risks myself. Just because you can't understand that does not make the shuttle fake. In other news, the temperature of a spacecraft is dictated by its radiative properties; it is designed to hold a safe temperature when placed at the proper attitude, as is the ISS. The structure is built to handle the 1 atm difference in pressure, which isn't even that much in the grand scheme of things compared to submarines. There is not a single reason why the shuttle would have to be fake and indeed there is irrefutable evidence that its crews have built ISS in orbit.

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Please explain Astronauts SPACE WALKING to me!

Humans walking in space.

Originally posted by ngchunter

Originally posted by Erad3
Why would they risk a human life with thousands of things that can go wrong with the program?

Just because you can't understand the need to explore does not mean no else can either. Astronauts accept the risks, I would GLADLY accept the risks myself. Just because you can't understand that does not make the shuttle fake. In other news, the temperature of a spacecraft is dictated by its radiative properties; it is designed to hold a safe temperature when placed at the proper attitude, as is the ISS. The structure is built to handle the 1 atm difference in pressure, which isn't even that much in the grand scheme of things compared to submarines. There is not a single reason why the shuttle would have to be fake and indeed there is irrefutable evidence that its crews have built ISS in orbit.

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Exactly, I too would accept the risks and travel into space on a Shuttle, especially if it would prove that your 'arguments' are wrong Erad.

There's the possibility that a enemy government can send something explosive to collide with the NASA Space Shuttle.

There could be International conflict with space shuttle in the future because of the NASA Space Shuttle in orbit.

NASA could inflict the chance of a International Space Warfare.

Who says you couldn't create a deadly collision with the space shuttle.

Why couldn't a enemy government launch a missile to hit the space shuttle!

These are risks that NASA is imposing to send a human crew into orbit!

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reply to post by tooo many pills


The green screen is great in the porno films!

NASA can use the green screen to the advantage of faking the whole program.

That is a pure green screen image!

Everyone should wish on a falling star!

What would you use a green screen for when creating a film?

reply to post by Erad3


Okay, that technology exists already, all you need is a missile with the range to hit it, China can do it, America and Russia too, as well as others but right now, I don't see that as a problem. I suppose you know that treaties have been signed for the non militarization of space? I know it's inevitable but right now, I don't see human space warfare happening.

Originally posted by Erad3
There's the possibility that a enemy government can send something explosive to collide with the NASA Space Shuttle.

There's the possibility that an enemy government could shoot down your plane as it crosses the pacific on your way to australia. Does that mean flights to australia are fake?

There could be International conflict with space shuttle in the future because of the NASA Space Shuttle in orbit.

That makes no sense. I mean really, that's just silly.

NASA could inflict the chance of a International Space Warfare.

You mean interstellar warfare? Yeah, also silly. "We might piss off ET if we go to space, so let's not go."

Who says you couldn't create a deadly collision with the space shuttle.

No one; you're putting up a strawman argument and dodging my posts.

Why couldn't a enemy government launch a missile to hit the space shuttle!

Why couldn't an enemy government launch a missile to hit the airliner!

Ok now its just getting to the point of being ridiculous. I have more intelligent conversations with my 8 year old son.

I have presented plenty of evidence, as have many others in this conversation, yet you chose to ignore it.

I have given you plenty of rebuttals to your statements, yet you dismiss them as not being relevant.

You however have provided nothing, zero, zilch. Not one single bit of evidence to support your position. All you are doing is saying your right everyone else is wrong.

It is obvious no one can change your mind or your flawed way at viewing things.

Originally posted by Erad3
reply to post by shiman

 

i have the capabilities of killing large amounts of people. would i? no.

This statement is way off topic.

You neither type complete sentences in this thread nor have relevance to this thread in a post.

I couldn't understand these inductive arguments to believe.

There isn't one poster who could accept that inductive argument.
Another poster that's a miscreant typing misconception.

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Look, my sentences are complete. And, i have noticed, you talk like a troll.

Just because something can happen, doesnt mean it will.

Originally posted by Erad3
reply to post by DerekJR321

 

The satellites are at risk for the collision in orbit because of the space debris.

They wouldn't risk a human life with space debris.

There's not any way the crew is going to be at risk, but they're faking the challenger mission.

I will not accept that there's a crew in the space shuttle.

There is way to much incoming space debris to risk a human life.
How much fear would you have knowing about the collision of space debris?

[edit on 15-7-2010 by Erad3]

Im going to introduce you to a new piece of technology. It allows people to see objects around them for miles.

Its called RADAR.

Originally posted by Erad3

If there's that much risk for disaster then NASA will never send any human crew in space!

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and that happened because a piece of the PROTECTIVE UNDERCOATING fell off during takeoff and some not-so-smart nasa people decided to have the astronauts not repair the damage in space.