Castro to appear on TV Monday, government says

reply to post by Nomad451


He gave a date and the date is gone. He also claims that the U.S. will start the war by using nuclear weapons to terrorize Iran and other nations... I gave part of the speech where he says instead of conventional weapons nuclear weapons will be used by the States in power to terrorize in a new way nations... Sorry but he is wrong.

Yes the elites seem to want to take us to a global war to "depopulate the world", but I don't think that even Obama, which I don't like because of his policies, will be using any nuclear weapons to attack Iran.

castro is rambling.

Originally posted by getreadyalready

The path to World War goes like this:

Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and N. Korea plot to attack the US on her own soil.

Something similar already happened... 9 years ago.

Originally posted by Regensturm
...
And please, can we stop the "senile" slurs of Castro? I ask not as a fan of Castro, but out of annoyance of the quite ignorant view held by some that to be over eighty must automatically mean that you are senile.

Criticise his policies, and for what he has done in his life by all means, but to just dismiss someone as "senile" for being over 80 is just immature and merely encourages the dismissal and the promotion of ageism directed at elderly people.

Where did I say he is senile and gave that as an excuse?

BTW first of all he has also tried many times to kill American presidents and it seems that he succeded in killing JFK.

Instead I base my coments on the knowledge that castro has ALWAYS loved to bash the U.S. and to claims things that only exist in his imagination.

He likes, and has ALWAYS loved to exagerate and even lie just to try to gain more support.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Sorry but I find it more likely that JFK was killed for printing his own Federal money, thereby circumventing the Federal Reserve. Also, the main reason such restrictions/rations are in place in Cuba is because the irrational embargo placed against it. Have it been lifted, the people of Cuba would have been won over by the wonders of capitalism (true capitalism, mind you, not the corporatist American version) and left communism decades ago.

¡Para la Libertad de Cuba!

Originally posted by ghostsoldier

If that's the case how 'bout speaking on the topics I raised and pointing out the fallacies I listed. Huh? *puts hand to ear* whats that? Its all true you say?

Does that come from your "extensive" knowledge of Cuba?... What's that? You were not born in Cuba, and you have no family there?....

What's that again? You like to swallow the cool-aid that castro gives you because you are a Communist too?... Ah I thought so...

BTW, just because your other Socialist/Communist friends are voting for you doesn't make you, or them right...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier

Your parents being from Cuba and you living in Miami does not give you the moral high ground to speak for an entire nation

I was born in Cuba, and lived there until I was 8 years old, which is longer than you have ever set foot on the island...

Not only that but my two half sisters are still there alongside my last living grandmother, most of my uncles, cousins and other relatives...

I went to Cuba last time in 2001 for about a month and saw again how things are there...

What's that again? you NEVER set foot in Cuba?.... Ah ok...

BTW, there are over 1.5 million Cubans in the U.S., and that's not counting the Cubans who are living in other countries, and that's not counting either the tens of thousands who have died trying to leave the island...

in Cuba there are about 11 million Cubans still trapped there, and yes SOME want to stay and like it there...

Yes there are some Cubans who believe the indoctrination and love castro, like you do, but the mayority don't...otherwise the Socialist/Communist regime wouldn't have a need to have spies in every neighborhood to find out if people are holding meetings to talk about freedom, and what they can do to better their lives...

Two of my counsins have recently, in the past couple of years, escaped by boat from Cuba, and they had been trying FOR YEARS to leave.

There are many Cubans who decide to stay because they don't want to leave the rest of their families, or because they don't want to risk the lives of their children... But many have been so desperate that they would even put the lives of their children at risk to leave the island.

You obviously don't understand that leaving Cuba by boat means to risk the shark infested waters off the coast of Cuba... Not to mention getting lost, dehydration, etc... BTW, in case you didn't know NO CUBAN is able to afford a compass...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
(of which only a tiny portion flee, almost entirely for better personal economic prospects),

Tiny portion my behind, and most people leave not for "personal economic prospects, but TO BE FREE... Yes many also like the much better economic prospects but that is not the number 1 reason...

You want to claim that I a CUBAN can't speak for my people yet you who ARE NOT CUBAN want to talk for them?.... Typical Communist BS...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
especially when your entire world view is based on the "pile of BS" your parents fed you (perhaps with some justification, I know a nice house, nice clothes and a new car are nice luxuries to have) and CANF leaflets you distribute on Miami street corners in the vein and misguided scope of understanding that you are making the world better.

First of all don't talk # about my parents, more so from some Communist armchair general living thousands of miles from Cuba, having never set foot inthe island, and much less EVER living as a Cuban...

You write a lot of BS, but of course your Socialist.Communist friends will continue flagging you and all of you will continue to think that makes you right....


The pile of BS come from people like you who have NEVER IN YOUR ENTIRE MISERABLE LIFE have set foot on Cuba, and much less lived as a Cuban....

I remember very well the almost empty stores and people fighting to get the last piece of meat, or the last bar of soap, which btw to ignorant people like yourself you don't know that Cubans are given a choice of one small bar of soap, or a toothpaste, and that was back in the 70s, now it is even harder to get even soap. We would use the soap to brush our teeth with out fingers....

But I guess thats a good life to "good Communists" like yourself...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
I am not Cuban, but I met and befriended 2 young dudes from Cuba traveling with a Guatemalan chick for a short but dense two and a half months or so - and we had lots of great discussions.

Oooh, yeah right....you had an imaginraty conversation with two Cubans and you are an expert in the history of Cuba.... BULL #....

Originally posted by ghostsoldier

So I know what I am talking about, not to mention the numerous books I have read, and personal relationships I had with a group of 12 people or so who went to Cuba in a "brigade" in 2005.

numerous books by whom?, Communist assholes who don't give a crap about what has been happening to the people in Cuba?...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier

How old are you?

38...and what the hell does that have to do with anything?... oh and how old are you?...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
Were you born in Cuba?

Yes I was and lived there until I was 8 years old, and last visited in 2001... again When have you EVER set foot in Cuba?.... Oh i almost forgot...never...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
When did you leave Cuba?

1980 and we went to Spain with help from our family in Spain where I lived almost 10 years...

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
Who was behind the decision?
And why?

My parents because they wanted a better life for me, my parents tried to get my two half sisters come with us but their mother out of malice, and contempt for my father threatened to turn my father in, she did call the cuban police and we had to leave my two half sisters behind...

You will never have any idea how hard that decision was for my parents, or for me, and btw their mother had abandoned my two sisters in Cuba and my parents were the ones taking care of them until we left. They then went to live for a while with our other relatives, and then moved with their grandmother.

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
The American embargo is what creates alot of the problems the Cuban people face - if you cant accept that simple fact, then there is nothing I can do to help you until you burn your membership card to CANF.

BULL #... First of all I don't have, and don't need any membership card to tell the truth, but perhaps you should be burning your Communist card, and stop drinking the cool-aid that castro and his thugs give you to drink...

The Cuban government has many businesses with several nations, including Canada and all that business only helps the high Communist regime in the island stay in power, and it only helps castro and his thugs to repair his several mansions, and the mansions of the thugs, meanwhile Cubans are living in houses which would be condenmed in the U.S., and even in most European countries...

When castro got power he was already rationing everything, from food to everything else... Obviously you are ignorant about this, even with the so many books you claim to have read...

post by ghostsoldier

 

If you do a little research, I'm sure you'll find that Cuba is more democratic than the US in alot of respects.

Thats all you can say? - About what I would expect from a person who has no idea what they are talking about.

No, who has no idea of what they are talking about are Communists like yourself sitting in your general arm chair claiming you know what you are talking about tousands of miles away from the island...

The elections in Cuba ARE A SHAM, and EVERY CUBAN knows this... castro chooses the people who stay in power. Now it is being done with the help of his brother and the other Socialist/Communist thugs that castro put in power for so many decades...





[edit on 13-7-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

post by ghostsoldier
*sigh* - But alas I will attempt to help detach from your ignorance.

so you, like so many other ignorant people want to believe the lies that castro sells to the world?... typical...

There has NEVER been any independent Human Rights group allowed to be in Cuba, or allowed to see what really happens there...


BTW, even wikipedia has this much to say about what has been happening in Cuba....

Human Rights Watch is among international human rights organizations accusing the Cuban government of systematic human rights abuses, including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extrajudicial executions (a.k.a. El Paredón).[1][2][3]

Cuban law limits freedom of expression, association, assembly, movement, and the press. Concerns have also been expressed about the operation of due process. According to Human Rights Watch, even though Cuba, officially atheist state until 1992, now "permits greater opportunities for religious expression than it did in past years, and has allowed several religious-run humanitarian groups to operate, the government still maintains tight control on religious institutions, affiliated groups, and individual believers."[1] Censorship in Cuba has also been at the center of complaints.[4][5] Most emigration is illegal. In 2010, Serbia offered to mediate between Cuba and the European Union to overcome the issue of human rights standing between them.[6]

.....
"Refusing to recognize human rights monitoring as a legitimate activity, the government denies legal status to local human rights groups. Individuals who belong to these groups face systematic harassment, with the government putting up obstacles to impede them from documenting human rights conditions. In addition, international human rights groups such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International are barred from sending fact-finding missions to Cuba. It remains one of the few countries in the world to deny the International Committee of the Red Cross access to its prisons."

en.wikipedia.org...


You think EVERY international Human Right groups is barred from entering Cuba because everything is cozy, and well in Cuba?...

They are barred so people like you don't learn the truth about Cuba...

BTW, a couple years back I had this same discussion with other members and, if I remember correctly, one of the moderators from back in the day was a Human Right activist, and she corroborated my story that Human Right Groups are not allowed to enter Cuba, not only for prisons, but AT ALL...

The only people allowed to film about "the Regimes lies about the conditions in Cuba" are those who are willing to go along with the lies from the castro regime, such as the asshole known as Michael Moore...


Let me TRULY enlighten you as to what happens when foreign people really try to learn the truth about Cuba...

For the first 4 1/2 months of the year, the Honorary Cuban of the Year has to be Helena Houdova, the Czech supermodel/human rights activist who was detained by the Cuban police after she and a friend were caught taking photographs in one of Havanas slums. The police confiscated a roll of film that was in Houdovas camera, but she was able smuggle out a memory card holding other photos in her bra.

Those photos have gone on exhibition in the Czech Republic, but until now I have been able to find only this one online.

Clearly, Houdova's talents extend from in front of a camera to behind one, too.
.....
First, a Czech diplomat gets himself expelled from Cuba for doing the right things. Prague responds by kicking out a Cuban diplomat and preparing a diplomatic offensive for the European Union to take a joint stance on Cuba.

"This does not mean that we will embrace Fidel Castro," said Foreign Minister Cyril Svoboda.

marcmasferrer.typepad.com...

Czech model Helena Houdova briefly detained in Cuba

Posted January 30, 2006 by Cubana in Cuba Politics > Castro's Cuba

Prague Daily Monitor

HAVANA, Jan 26 (CTK)

Czech supermodel Helena Houdova and psychologist Mariana Kroftova were detained in Cuba on Monday when Houdova was taking photographs of a slum in the capital of Havana, Reuters news agency reported today.

The two women spent 11 hours in police custody.

Houdova, Czech Miss 1999 has lived for a second year mainly in New York and Los Angeles doing modelling. At the same time she tries to raise money to help children with social and health handicaps in nine countries the world over.

One of its projects is the Sunflower foundation fund.

Houdova said that she went to Cuba to find out how she could help children in the communist country.

She said that during their detention neither she nor Kroftova were allowed to contact the Czech embassy.

They were released after they pledged in writing that they will not join any “counter-revolutionary activities” in the country, Houdova said.

They were also ordered not to leave Havana until Sunday when they are to end their stay in the country.

Cuban police also confiscated Houdovas film, but she said she had succeeded in hiding the memory card from her digital camera in her bra.

“They screamed at us. We were afraid,” Houdova said, adding “we grew up under communism and know what it is like.”

Czech-Cuban political relations have been frozen since the fall of communism in then Czechoslovakia in 1989. The reason is the Czech criticism of the ruling political regime in Cuba.

havanajournal.com...


Obviously only ex-Communists who have suffered under Communism all over the world, and some people who don't buy into the BS like you do are the few people who know the truth about what happens in Communist regimes...but of course "good Comunists" like ghostsoldier like to claim we are all lying, and it is the people who have never experienced true Socialism/Communism who know that you live a wonderful life in Socialist/Communist regimes...

post by ghostsoldier
Really look into it - I beg of you - you'll find its just as good as the faulty 2-Party system you have over there in America.

No...YOU should be the one to REALLY look into it because it is obvious you are just another one who swallows the lies that CASTRO has been selling for decades...

All the information that you see about how wonderful the Cuban education system is great, and free, which is not since starting since 11-12 years old children have to do hard labor harvesting sugar cane, tobacco, and vegetables they don't get to eat... Every summer for 45 days children, and all the way through University, which not all, nor most Cubans get to enjoy, have to work for free under conditions that you would not allow your pet dog to live in...

Not only that, it doesn't end there, there is also the fact that throughout the year Cuban people have to serve as guards in their neighborhood at night, as well as doing other work for the state and for free... that's how the "so wonderful educational service is paid in Cuba"...

Then there is the fact that the education is aimed at BRAINWASHING Cubans since childhood to believe that the Socialist/Communist system is the best there is and to hate everything that is western, more so the U.S.

Not only that, but i have read many letters from and uncle, and an aunt of mine who are doctors in Cuba, who i love to death but who have the grammar skill of a 6 year old, and I am talking about them writting in Spanish. But then again I went to middle school and high school in Spain.

Then there are the hospitals which are lacking even the basics such as rubber gloves for doctors, and even many times the regular Cuban people are given some household remedy, or aspirin, when there are any, because they lack medications.

Most Cubans which need medication depend on their families outside of Cuba. My parents and I send medication, and money to our family in Cuba.

The only hospitals which are well stocked in Cuba are those reserved for tourists, which btw to ALL Cubans ALL tourists are rich people, and these same hospitals are the ones which the Cuban elite use... the rest of the Cuban people, which makes the mayority, have to depend on other hospitals which are in bad condition and lack the medicine, and equipment needed in "world class hospitals"....

Cuban people having "world class hospitals"... what a bunch of BULL#...




[edit on 13-7-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

looks like many people think to much WAY TO MUCH
lets see how so far i have take Castro speech

first ....many ATS members said that Castro is on ATS and his is sometime reading and posting some stuff
or he should be a futur ATS members like all of us after his speech lol

wants the most troubling part of this ... is that they are correct !!!
he just reflected +80% of our thoughs from the prophecy, ww3, nukes, conspiracy, tyranny, dictatorship, falseflag op, usa shadow plan etc etc....threads here on ats...
and some of us here still say he his just a mad old crazy guy who speak on TV to have more fame
the most troubling part .. is that he DONT COME HERE ON ATS
im quite VERY sure about that lol .. first of all its in english and there is thousand of site who also speak about this
( which ATS beats all of them combined )
my point is.... he have reflected our concerns from the ME
that something will happen soon over there
IRAN USA ISRAEL is on the brink of WAR at anytime soon
many usa warship are already there and Iran is just the center of many army base surounding it ..
so far its a big chess game ... you take a map to see the obvious
after the king is carefully surrounded you make the final move

its all there EVERYTHING is in place just for that
but people should not take seriously any given predictions date on this ..
like i said in my other post ... a surprise attack is the best strategic way to have a quick victory
if the entire "enemy" army defense are on high alert and 100% prepared
it will be very hard to win it ... it will be a hell of a battle
since the army attacking will also be 100% prepared on the offence part
it can change the final planned result of any war
but if there are attacked by surprise ... some of the "enemy" army still sleeping,eating .. doing OTHER stuff than being fully prepare and on high alert ...
Surprise attack = will make the "enemy" desorganized
and Iran will be very much hurted as hell brake loose

Surprising an "enemy while they are not 100% high alert prepared will be fatal

thats why if any media, source, blog can pinpoint the date
they will report it to another futur dates

they will strike Iran ?... YES
When ... ? if a date is release to any public news .. it will be delayed
so nobody can really give any date ... except some high profile israelis from the governement

come on... USA have fought how many wars already ?....
it is now so easy to know what they will do now and what strategic tactic to use ...
1) all the pions are in place(us army base surrounding it) ..
2)cut the "enemy" supply (the sanctions) ..
3)continu to use propaganda loud speaker (world media) ..
4)destabilize the country from within ( usa approved millions so that they can go cover-op on the opposition to riots and try a coup detat )

many tactic ... ALL of them have already been used on Iran to make it weak ... can nobody see that ? ... (number 5 will be the attack)
so when the surprise attack will come it can be more easy to win
Iran is HUGE it cannot be fast planned like that

i beleive Iran with his allies will remove the USA and israel influence from the ME
Russia and China ... siding with the USA ?
that wont happen... they will make the difference in that war
so its impossible to that day to see if USA or Iran will be the winner of that war
thats why it will be the ww3
Irak and afghanistan .. before the war we knew who would "win" obviously :S
did i said usa win in irak and afghanistan ? .. yes because army troops are inside the country after 10 years still fighting
but its some kind of a win .. they are inside and implemented ...
they wont be able to occupied Iran ... i dont see that coming
this war = wipe out Iran with nukes


[edit on 7/13/2010 by Ben81]

BTW, here is a good website that shows some of the truth about the "so wonderful free healthcare that regular Cubans receive...

WARNING, THERE ARE IMAGES IN THE FOLLOWING LINK THAT ARE NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED. THESE ARE PHOTOS THAT SHOW THE REAL CONDITIONS OF CUBAN HOSPITALS.

There is also some other information all which has been smuggled out of Cuba.

THIS IS THE FAMOUS 'GREAT AND FREE HEALTHCARE' THAT REGULAR CUBANS RECEIVE

One of the greatest fallacies about the so called 'Cuban Revolution' has to do with healthcare.

Foreigners who visit Cuba, are fed the official line from Castros propaganda machine: "All Cubans are now able to receive excellent healthcare, which is also free." But the truth is very different. Castro has built excellent health facilities for the use of foreigners, who pay with hard currency for those services.

Argentinean soccer star Maradona, for example, has traveled several times to Cuba to receive treatment to combat his drug addiction. But Cubans are not even allowed to visit those facilities. Cubans who require medical attention must go to other hospitals, that lack the most minimum requirements needed to take care of their patients.

In addition, most of these facilities are filthy and patients have to bring their own towels, bed sheets, pillows, or they would have to lay down on dirty bare mattresses stained with blood and other body fluids.
...
Cuba's free and fabulous healthcare

Feb. 23 - The Castroite propaganda in Sicko so outraged people cursed by fate to live in Castros fiefdom that they risked their lives by using hidden cameras to film conditions in genuine Cuban hospitals, hoping they could alert the world to Moores swinishness as a propaganda operative for a Stalinist regime.

At enormous risk, two hours of shocking, often revolting, footage was obtained with tiny hidden cameras and smuggled out of Cuba to Cuban-exile George Utset, who runs the superb and revelatory website The Real Cuba. The man who assumed most of the risk during the filming and smuggling was Cuban dissident -- a medical doctor himself – Dr. Darsi Ferrer, who was also willing to talk on camera, narrating much of the video's revelations. Dr Ferrer worked in these genuinely Cuban hospitals daily, witnessing the truth. More importantly, he wasn't cowed from revealing this truth to America and the world. (A recent samizdat reports that the black Dr. Ferrer is currently languishing in a Cuban prison cell --not far from Gitmo, by the way-- undergoing frequent beatings.

Originally, ABCs John Stossel planned to show the shocking smuggled videos in their entirety, during a 20/20 show. Alas, on Sept. 12th 2007, the 20/20 show ran only a tiny segment on Cubas real healthcare, barely 5 minutes long and with almost none of the smuggled video footage. What happened? Humberto Fontova

www.therealcuba.com...


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reply to post by Ben81


Iran doesn't have allies. They have Syria and Lebanon. They trade with Russia and China, but both of those countries supported the US sanctions.

Iran fought Iraq to a draw. The US took Iraq in under 2 weeks back in 1991. We took them again in less time 10 years later. Russia fought Afghanistan to a draw, the US took it in a couple of weeks. The US struck the heart of Libya without losing a single soul. The US has Nuclear subs off the coast of China, we have missiles and allies in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, the Phillipines. The US has missiles and bases surrounding Russia. The US has warships off the coast of Costa Rica.

The point is, the US can do whatever it wants to do to Iran. They can do it from afar, or they can march in and do it up close. It won't take a month to topple Iran, Whats more, the US will use Israel to do most of the dirty work. We will just be the technological support. We will soften up all the defenses with airstrikes and missiles, and then let the IDF go in on the ground.

Russia won't interfere.
China won't interfere.
Lebanon and Syria won't interfere, although they my through some sucker punches at Israel.

The only way Iran starts a World War is if they attack first, and they attack fiercely, and they attack with surprise allies like Venezuela and Brazil and N. Korea.

If the US attacks Iran, it will not escalate, it will not last long, and it will not cause any major disruption in world economy. It will go just like Iraq and Afghan did.

So you are saying 100% no chance of events taking a different path that what you have stated?

Originally posted by bigbomb456
So you are saying 100% no chance of events taking a different path that what you have stated?

Not the way that castro is implying.

He claims the United States will not use conventional weapons but will use nuclear weapons to terrorize other countries....

(Well in, that comment he also includes Israel.)

I don't even believe that and i don't even like the Obama administration....

[edit on 13-7-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by bigbomb456
So you are saying 100% no chance of events taking a different path that what you have stated?

I'm saying that it is 100% certain that the US will not "begin" a nuclear war, and that an attack on Iran will not escalate to a Nuclear war, or a World War.

I'm not saying WWIII is impossible, or that a Nuclear war is impossible. It just won't happen as a result of an attack on Iran.

Oh, and here is part of the video of REAL REGULAR CUBANS and the hospitals they have to go to, as well as the interviews of doctors and some patients...

BTW, another warning, many images are not for the faint hearted, these videos show part of the truth of how bad the Socialized healthcare is in Cuba...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Here is another which show both the hospital that appeared in Sicko, and which is reserved for tourists, and the Cuban elites and their families, and then shows a hospital for regular Cubans..

www.youtube.com...

So keep drinking the Cuban regime cool-aid or wake up to the true situation in Cuba... It is up to you...

BTW, anyone who understands Spanish, listen to these videos.

www.youtube.com...

Here is what a real Cuban doctor has to say, and he is not the only one, after the lies that a castro propagandist claimed in Venezuela... It is in Spanish though but with English subtitles.

www.youtube.com...


[edit on 13-7-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Ben81

 

Iran doesn't have allies.

They have Syria and Lebanon. They trade with Russia and China, but both of those countries supported the US sanctions.

you dont see it the way i see it ....
let me tell you the doubts

Russia and China from the start was on Iran side
vetoing sanctions... telling many time no to attack iran or else ..
NOW sudden change ... agreing on tuff new sanction
not selling the S300 to iran (im sure they are already fully install)
since the start ... usa tell iran not to go nuclear ... and what Russia do
construct the Busher reactor that can be used to make weapons

Russia and China will not come in after the first strike ..
they will wait a little bit until usa will be extremelly weakened before jumping in to confront the usa on his own soil

yes i predict that america soil will be invaded shortly after the Iran war with a massive RED army from china and russia
they have maybe changed their mind because of the gulf spill ...
(thats why is was sabotaged ? )
china need more ground .... china wants america for a long time ... with a 20 millions people army members
it will be easy to implement 100 000 army men in each americans city

no one can PREDICT the when and how this futur Iran war will finish
and who will side who ...

the enemy of my enemy is a friend

washington post

.. another edition of the speech

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


every country in the world has their problems
i think cuba is still under a strick blockade
that can be good to any hospitals
while the usa have many vets sleeping in the street

Originally posted by Ben81

every country in the world has their problems
i think cuba is still under a strick blockade
that can be good to any hospitals
while the usa have many vets sleeping in the street

Very few have problems like in Cuba, and sorry to tell you that you have neither watched any of the videos i gave, nor any of the information I provided. It is obvious....

The american blockade is not the reason of the oppression and hardships the Cuban people endure, people are suffering because of the CUBAN REGIME...

You are Canadian, and you should know that the Cuban regime has businesses with your country, as well as European countries, yet NONE of that helps the Cuban people...

And please, don't even dare to compare a few vets, which yes is bad, with the fate of MOST Cubans....

At least the vets have the ability to speak freely, and say whatever they want...that is not allowed in Cuba, and people are sent to prisons and beaten to a pulp just for talking about freedom and about the oppression of the Cuban regime....

Do yourself a favor and "really" inform yourself.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


ok .. i did type my reply to you to fast .. sorry for that
it was just an exemple like this... that i have throw aways
let me be more clear NOW ...
even here in Canada we have our problem
we have many poor and many rich peoples
im sure you have huge amount of proof to fact that the cubans are living in poverty ... africa from my point of view is the worst
many asian and latin countries have their problem
but in africa they live in mudd houses ... they eat insect ... they explore huge depotoir to make a living out of it
they are millions of people there that are sick ... each days they drink disgusting water and get more sick.... flies everywhere dumping their eggs on the skins...
many people there dont drink and eat for days before they find something
if they are not lucky ... they die and they will be forgot .. hungry dogs will eat their corpse

so dont come here telling cuba have problems ...
yes they have but many place elsewhere have unimaginable problems

from my part i know im not super duper rich like many people
i live in a 4 and a half... its good .. compare to elsewhere
thats why i cant be jalous of anyone around me
because i know many people have less than i do
you should think the same
do not focus on a country .. because im sure there is worst
Gaza is something but many africans nation live in the world worst inhuman conditions

if usa would cut their millitary budget for exemple only 1 years
it would feed to world for a century
there is no more good values anywhere
every country is spending on millitary budget thats why there is no more money to feed the people ...

REMOVE THE MILITARY BUDGET = PEACE ON EARTH
no more poverty no more problems
like castro says ... usa have spend on military budget more than all countries combined ... i beleive that to be a fact
there is a problem in the usa
usa is on the verge of total economy collapse and they still spend and try to do more war ... WTF
americans will suffer greatly because all of this
more and more negatives effects are unfolding right now more than ever before

so i do take a lot of informations all the time
from all around the world not just from cuba and from many source from both sides... so i dont precipate any false judgments


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[edit on 7/13/2010 by Ben81]

reply to post by Ben81


Ben, we disagree, but not as much as it seems.

I think that if We attack Iran, then it will be too late for China and/or Russia to do anything. We have so much technology and such good war planners, and such overwhelming force, that by the time we attack, the war is over!

Now, I agree that the US is ripe for an invasion. If you read my earlier post, I think that a collaborated effort between the BRIC countries and the Axis of Evil could be devastating to the US. The BRIC countries would never initiate a war, but they could provide weapons, money, and training. North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran could preemptively strike the US and Israel, especially while we are overextended, and while our troops are in transit. The Gulf Spill is a key distraction in all of this.

So, while we disagree on the outcome of a US attack on Israel, we don't disagree on the potential for an invasion.

I think we will all have an answer by the end of summer. Either us or Israel strikes Iran, or they strike at us, or nothing happens. If nothing happens by September, it ain't happening.

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This thread has a lot of the specific strategy for attack and defense of Iran, Israel, and the US. There is really no way that Iran wins this battle, unless they can cause a diversion back on US soil, and then attack Israel, draw the world out in support, and then defend their mainland.

If the US strikes with low, fast, stealthy F-22, F-35s on their mobile and sensitive sites, that attack will be over before Iran wakes up. As soon as they wake up and light up their radar sites and missile batteries, we use satellites and high flying radar platforms, and we use ship based missiles to destroy all the larger more powerful defensive positions. Once those are knocked out, we send our B-2's and our larger slower bombers to destroy infrastructure, power, government buildings, bridges, etc. Then we wait for a surrender and if we are not satisfied, we send in Israeli forces and IDF, with aerial and naval support from US and Israel. They don't stand a chance, they won't last a week! There won't be anything Russia or China will want to defend or criticize. They will be too interested in making friends with the new government, and negotiating contracts for rebuilding everything and producing Iran's assets. Just like Iraq and Afghan.

NOW....the flipside is the "Red Dawn" scenario. I mentioned it earlier. Small rogue nations mount a synchronized attack on US soil and assets. They draw us out and they illuminate our weaknesses. They use sleeper cells within the borders, they invade the Gulf, they attack our allies in Japan and S. Korea. They cause overall havoc. While we are stammering for a response, Iran attacks Israel with everything its got. Russia and China now have a lot more opportunity to play both sides. They can publicly denounce the attacks, while supplying assets and technology to the attackers. The US is forced to choose between defending the mainland, or fighting a world war with limited assets spread around the globe! If they don't fully defend the mainland, the administration gets sacked, the states buddy up, and the country splits into regions capable of better defense. If they do fully defend the mainland, then we concede Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Taiwan, S. Korea, and more to our enemies!

Or, as someone pointed out earlier, we resort to Nuclear Arms, we entirely decimate those aggressors, and we alienate ourselves from the world, and we begin a very, very long healing process without the benefit of a global community and economy.