reply to post by SugarCube
I guess it is time to explain how my economy works a bit more.
The computer is the force behind the barter trade.
I takes into account the amount of items there are,
and distributes them equally. So no matter what job you do,
if you go to the supermarket, you can get at least one item of
everything for yourself, now considering that you have now
complete automation, even food becomes abundant.
I present to you the idea of farm-scrapers, not a new idea,
but a good one. This saves space in the rural lands and feeds
most of the city. Vertical farming is the future.
When it comes to bartering between cities and rural lands,
any excess production can be easily bartered away, considering that
the excess is considered waste and will be recycled anyways.
Basically, what I am saying is, government would not so much oversee
transactions, as rather note them down, everything would be done
on the personal level, the only part government would have in this is
making sure certain much needed items are distributed accordingly, as long as everyone keeps to the limits, they can barter and trade as they please.
Basically, all public services would be run on bureaucracy, with the addition of allowing private enterprises of doing the same. This enables one to
cover the others mistakes. So, in short, all necessities are government operated via bureaucracy, with the element of competition stemming from
private enterprises. Makes sense?
We make good with the system we have right now when it comes to holidays and hoarding of vital products. I don't know what world you think I'm
presenting you with, but yes, there will be granaries and warehouses... Everything runs as is, just more humanely.
If you choose to be an independent farmer you will barter your goods with other people and trader caravans from the city, if you wish to work on a
government farm, you get your share of the food, the rest goes to the city, and for your hard work you can consume any item you wish, as long as it
exists and there is enough for everyone. Of course, each individual has their own needs, at the worst case scenario, requisition orders can be made
through the stores, the manager contacts his suppliers and they produce more, so next week you can have your flat screen TV, makes sense?
All you need to get things is proof that you work, not hard eh? There would be many employment centers scattered around the city, so I doubt you'd
have the modern problem of starving for two weeks before you get your first paycheck, the moment you start working you can buy food and goods.
What prevents people from using the system? If you work for a day and hoard everything in one shot and then leave the next, don't bother coming back
because you're exiled.
People won't need to use metals for barter, unless they work in mines.
If you understand my system, you will understand that you're showing problems with a purely barter system where in everyone barters everyone, I say
rather, your services are given to society, and society gives you back other services. You can change your profession anytime you'd like.
Like I said, my system is the current one modified to suit the concept of moneylessness, is it that hard to imagine?
Individuals wouldn't be able to hoard, unless they hoard their own produce, independent farmers have that option, good luck bartering with nothing
though... As for private enterprises, they can do as they want, there's still a government that does the same, hoarding won't be an issue I'm
afraid, due to the fact that I'm proposing a state run economy mixed with a private economy.
There wouldn't be credits, each individual can consume as much as one needs, as long as there's the industry to support this behavior. There would
be a supply/demand ratio number, but it would be there to give everyone a general idea of how much they can consume of each item.
"Those administrations have to operate at the right structural levels, it is no good the macro levels trying to dynamically control the micro levels
or we end up in the situation we have now. "
This is precisely why I have decided to mix private enterprise in with government operations.
You don't need a feudal system to give people the sense of belonging,
nationalism is easy to establish within each city state, you already see similar with sports, the other day I was in traffic cause everyone was
yelling and celebrating the victory of their city's hockey team. What we need is to curb
the antisocial aspect of society. There are many fronts in this war, and changing government and economy is only one of them. Government cannot solve
every problem, you must look at the world through the eyes of a politician, businessman, philosopher, painter, mathematician, musician, etc. Mass
media is what you are focusing on now, the general attitude of the people must change, this can only be done in 20 years, for it takes 20 years to
raise a new generation. Movies, books, newspapers, internet, all these tools shape an individual's mind, not to mention interpersonal contact.
Again, as I mentioned, the moment you have someone in charge you have a problem. If I was in charge, I would put a plan forth and let society run
it's course without having any heirs. You cannot have more than one king, because then you have more than one goal and view on the world. The only
way to keep a goal going is through the use of a computer program.