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Polanski will not be extradited to the US!

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posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 08:37 AM
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Polanski will not be extradited to the US!


www.swissinfo.ch

Filmmaker Roman Polanski will not be extradited to the US, the Swiss Justice Ministry has decided.
"The reason for the decision lies in the fact that it was not possible to exclude with the necessary certainty a fault in the US extraditionary request," the Swiss Justice Ministry said in a statement on Monday.




The announcement follows months of uncertainty over whether Polanski would have to return to the United States to face sentencing for having unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl in 1977.

"Considering all the aspects of this case – and in particular the extradition reques
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posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 08:37 AM
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Well well well. Seems like the Swiss got a little cold feet or someone in the US messed up Big Time.

Just amazing what the rich and elite can get away with. Had it been you or me (the little guy), it would have been a done deal with a bow on it.

Especially since I heard there were some other young girls that he, at least, attempt to molest/assualt. Guess it is good to be at the elite level.

I can't understand where the common sense in Justice has gone.

Smart thinking on his part to fight the extridition-gave time for him/friends to pay off the right people I guess.

www.swissinfo.ch
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posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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That first sentence is rather confusing. They're not sure if their is a fault in the extradition request? The facts weren't presented? The Justice Ministry handed down one of the most vague rulings that basically says, NO, You can't have. They should just come out and say it.

It seems rather cut and dried to me, he is wanted on a US warrant for fleeing the country before being sentenced for a crime that he pled guilty to. The rape doesn't really matter anymore, its the fact that he skipped out. I bet DOG the bounty hunter would get him, yeah right.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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I figured they wouldn't go through with it. How long has the guy been there? Decades! If they were going to ship him out they would have done it years ago.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by anon72


Well well well. Seems like the Swiss got a little cold feet or someone in the US messed up Big Time.


I personally don't think anybody messed up, as whatever the mess up is, wasn't specified.

I guess even in Switzerland, "money talks," and well, you know the rest!



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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As I predicted months ago here on ATS, this was nothing but a effort by the Swiss to shake down Roman Polanski and make some money off of the situation.

While a lot of people clearly despise his actions, he is a man who survived the Holocaust in Poland during World War II, but lost his parents to it, he is a man who’s wife and unborn son days away from being born were horrifically murdered by the Charlie Manson family, who then after pleading guilty to the circumstances in this case, which essentially was a stars struck mother lying to Polanski about her daughters age, and delivering her and dropping her off at his mansion as an adult, agreed to a plea the Los Angeles County Judge then wanted to renege on to up his own profile by once more using Polanski’s celebrity as a vehicle for attention.

Many are disappointed by him not being extradited, but when you do stop to look at the actual details of the events as well as those of the man’s life, and how all this is still transpiring and haunting him all these years later, the truth is our own Justice system would be hard pressed to visit on the man any thing more significant in the way of punishment than life has been apparently dealing him out all along and all throughout.

This is a man who, as a result, will never, ever be truly free.

[edit on 12/7/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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It was so long ago now, why bother?

He made the 9th gate- love that movie. He is worth more to the world free.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by hadriana
It was so long ago now, why bother?

He made the 9th gate- love that movie. He is worth more to the world free.


Not entirely true, the justice system everywhere looks to profit the state under the guise of protecting the citizenry, however when one State like Switzerland then competes with another State like the United States in profiting off of a set of circumstances you have this.




MiamiHerald.com

The Oscar-winning director of "Rosemary's Baby," "Chinatown" and "The Pianist" was accused of plying his victim with champagne and part of a Quaalude during a 1977 modeling shoot and raping her. He was initially indicted on six felony counts, including rape by use of drugs, child molesting and sodomy, but pleaded guilty to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse.

In exchange, the judge agreed to drop the remaining charges and sentence him to prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation. However, he was released after 42 days by an evaluator who deemed him mentally sound and unlikely to offend again. The judge responded by saying he was going to send Polanski back to jail for the remainder of the 90 days and that afterward he would ask Polanski to agree to a "voluntary deportation." Polanski then fled the country on the eve of his Feb. 1, 1978, sentencing.


Based on references to Gunson's testimony in U.S. courts, the Swiss said it "should prove" that Polanski served his sentence after undergoing 42 days of diagnostic study.

"If this were the case, Roman Polanski would actually have already served his sentence and therefore both the proceedings on which the U.S. extradition request is founded and the request itself would have no foundation," the ministry said.

The Justice Ministry also said that national interests were taken into consideration in the decision, and the wishes of the victim, Samantha Geimer, who long ago publicly identified herself and has joined in Polanski's bid for dismissal.


A whole book was written about the Los Angeles County Judge's actions in regards to this case and how he hoped to use them to raise his own celerity status by going back on the agreement.

The fact that Polanski only pled to the least severe of the charges is because the prosecution could not overcome that the mother and the girl both lied about her age to Polanski and the mother in essence 'pimped her out' to him for profit of her own.

Keep in mind there is short term profit, you owe me a hundred dollars, pay up, and long term profit, I am going to profit off of circumstance through a book or a movie because of my interactions with you.

In reality what Polanski agreed to he essentially did, he underwent the evaluation, he voluntarily left the country.

Even the victim who profited several hundred thousand dollars of the case, after having lied to Polanski about her age, and voluntarily accepted the champagne and qualude as an adult, has been on Polanski's side of the issue for decades, and doesn't want to see him punished further.

Because the Swiss had a level of control of the situation, that an individual person doesn't and could act as a State in a dispute with another State they were able to make demands for facts that an individual couldn't and to weigh them those facts and responses or lack of them, considering their own State and profit and idea of justice instead of ours.

In that process it became apparent at least to the Swiss that the United States did not want to actually release all the details that would have underscored and highlighted the original judges misconduct which ended up leading to this whole mess.

When you take the emotions out of it, and look at it based on just the facts, it's a different animal.

It's why our government through politicians and the media love to prompt people to think emotionally and make emotional reactions, because such people who do that, and use that as their decision manking criteria are seldom ever interested in the facts or seek them out, just positions and suppositions that validate and justify their emotional stance.

Huge lesson for people to learn in this case there.



[edit on 12/7/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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Well well well. Seems like the Swiss got a little cold feet or someone in the US messed up Big Time.


I suspect someone messed up. The Swiss are VERY meticulous about paperwork, one box unchecked, one word unspelled can undo months and even years of work. The Swiss are efficient and meticulous, they keep records which put any other country to shame, and they believe in accuracy.

If you read further then the headlines you'd see there is more to the story. Definiltey not a crime worth spending millions to extradite the guy from anywhere.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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Official Information:



Roman Polanski: no extradition Bern, 12.07.2010 -

The 76-year-old French-Polish film director Roman Polanski will not be extradited to the USA. The freedom-restricting measures against him have been revoked. This announcement was made by Mrs Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf, head of the Swiss Federal Department of Justice and Police (FDJP), in Berne on Monday. The reason for the decision lies in the fact that it was not possible to exclude with the necessary certainty a fault in the US extradition request, although the issue was thoroughly examined. Moreover, also the principles of State action deriving from international public order were taken into account.

At the end of 2005 the US authorities issued an international search warrant against Roman Polanski due to sexual offence against a minor committed in 1977. On the basis of this international order of arrest, Roman Polanski was arrested on 26th September 2009 upon his arrival at the airport of Zürich and taken into provisional custody pending extradition. On 22nd October 2009 the US authorities filed a formal extradition request. On 4th December Roman Polanski was released from custody after depositing a 4.5 million franc bail and was granted house arrest under electronic monitoring in his chalet in Gstaad.

Refusal to grant record insight
In the framework of the extradition proceedings, on 3rd March 2010, the Federal Office of Justice (FOJ) asked the USA authorities to substantiate the extradition request by supplying the records of a hearing carried out on 26th January 2010 by the public prosecutor, Roger Gunson, who was in charge of the case in the seventies. The records should prove that, in a meeting held on 19th September 1977, the judge in charge at the time had expressly assured the representatives of the parties that the 42 days of detention spent by Roman Polanski in the psychiatric unit of a Californian prison represented the whole term of imprisonment he was condemned to. If this were the case, Roman Polanski would actually have already served his sentence and therefore both the proceedings on which the US extradition request is founded and the request itself would have no foundation.

The request of the FOJ to supply the records was rejected by the US Justice Department on 13th May 2010 due to a court ruling, according to which the records had to be kept secret. In these circumstances it is not possible to exclude with the necessary certainty that Roman Polanski has already served the sentence he was condemned to at the time and that the extradition request is undermined by a serious fault. Considering the persisting doubts concerning the presentation of the facts of the case, the request has to be rejected.

The protection of confidence is a principle of international and national law To these considerations based on the extradition treaty with the USA it is necessary to add considerations based on general international law, that is international public order, according to which international treaties are not to be interpreted only according to their wording, but also to their sense and purpose. They have to be fulfilled respecting the principle of good faith. This protection of confidence is a general principle laid down in specific norms both in international law and in Swiss national law, and precisely in article 9 of the Federal Constitution. In particular it is necessary to take into account the fact that it is generally known that, since he bought his house in Gstaad in 2006, Roman Polanski has been regularly staying in Switzerland. Nonetheless the US authorities did not file any formal extradition request for years. Moreover, although Roman Polanski was registered in the Swiss registry of wanted persons, he was never controlled by the Swiss authorities. These circumstances justified a confidence basis and Roman Polanski would not have decided to go to the film festival in Zürich in September 2009 if he had not trusted that the journey would not entail any legal disadvantages for him.

Considering all the aspects of this case - and in particular the extradition request which is not satisfying as far as the presentation of the facts of the case is concerned and the principles of State action deriving from international public order- the extradition request has to be rejected.

Source: www.admin.ch...


So, this should say it all and clear.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 10:17 AM
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Money talks and bullchit paedos walk.
He absconded while on sentance?
Chain gang would be the right place for this lump of excrement.
With a bit of luck some one on the chain gang would sodomise him. We can only hope that he gets taken back to the USA and recieves a proper sentance for this crime.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 10:44 AM
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polanski should be forgiven. i think what he did was a one-time thing, caused by all the stress in his life. just let it go.




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