Secrets Warehouse_13 Mandible Part 1 and 2

Thought some of you may want to watch this [sorry if not seen the show] regarding the Alien Mandible shown on Warehouse 13.
Now to me this is strange but still this is interesting to watch hope you enjoy.

A mandible thought to be not of this world - potential evidence that alien life was hidden by the United States government at Wright-Patterson Air Force base.

Video is in two parts.
Part 1

Part 2


[edit on 12-7-2010 by k3rm1t]



Edited spaces into title

[edit on 14/7/10 by masqua]

Very interesting to say the least and thanks for posting

I just hope its not just another hoax.

reply to post by Bob Down Under


Agree and the whole show was good just thought rather than post the alien video I have not seen anything on ATS about this.

great more you tube videos I cant watch...

and I so want to see stuff like this!

thanks for the posts ...but i dono why the sound went out twards the end on both vids ....anyway ty very much i enjoyed the vids reguardles

Originally posted by Nephi1337
thanks for the posts ...but i dono why the sound went out twards the end on both vids ....anyway ty very much i enjoyed the vids reguardles

The videos are only about the mandible.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by k3rm1t]

Originally posted by k3rm1t
Thought some of you may want to watch this [sorry if not seen the show] regarding the Alien Mandible shown on Warehouse 13.

Hi k3rm1t,

Some more information about the background to this "alien mandible" was posted a few years ago by Michael Lindemann of CNI News:
web.archive.org...://cninews.com/CNI_FTDAlien.html


I thought it worth posting that link since it is not very easy to find in 2010 (since the relevant website is no longer online)

Collins reported information on an "alien mandible" from an interview with an ex-VA (Veterans Administration) dental specialist in Dayton, OH, conducted in February 1995 by news reporter Carl Day of television station WDTN-Channel 2. CNI News subsequently interviewed both Carl Day and the VA dental technician, identified as John Mosgrove, who provided the following information:

Air Force personnel visited VA hospital in Dayton during last week of October 1979, bringing with them a dental impression of an unusual mandible. On request, dental technician John Mosgrove made a "quick-set" casting from the mandible for the Air Force officer, then observed the officer crush the original impression and throw it into a waste basket. Before leaving with the casting, the officer told Mosgrove that there would be no paperwork on this assignment and that he was to forget everything he had seen.

Mosgrove recovered the fragments of the crushed impression and reconstructed them over a period of days, then made several castings. One casting remains in his possession. Another was given to news reporter Carl Day. A third is in an unnamed safe location. Based on his study of the "mandible" and inquiries to several other specialists, Mosgrove speculates:

Age of person or "being:" late twenties to early thirties
Age of mandible: goes back 40 to 45+ years
Mandible underwent traumatic impact; i.e. tooth knocked out
Mandible not human or [known] animal
Person or "being" not a meat eater; teeth completely flat

Searching for "john mosgrove" and "michael lindemann" on Google in 2010 finds a few relevant webpages.

I would highlight the article Dental Technician says "Mandible" may be alien at the link below, since it contains a relatively extensive transcript of an interview with the relevant "Dental Technician", John Mosgrove:
www.think-aboutit.com...

[John K. Mosgrove is a 67 year-old dental technician currently living in Richmond, Indiana. In 1979, he says, while working at a Veterans Administration hospital in Dayton, Ohio (about a 30 minute drive from Wright Patterson Air Force Base), he was assigned the task of replicating a strange mandible, or lower jawbone, taken from a creature of unknown identity. Under orders to remain silent, he told no one about these events for over 14 years; but he did create additional copies of the strange mandible for future study. Recently, several researchers have looked into the claims of John Mosgrove, including the late Leonard Stringfield, who discussed the case in his "UFO Crash/Retrievals: Status Report VII." Television newsman Carl Day of Dayton's WDTN Channel 2 also ran a special report on Mosgrove in 1995 and has continued to investigate the possible legitimacy of the "alien" mandible.

CNI News first learned of the mystery mandible in the fall of 1995 from an intelligence source who sent us both text and illustrations over the internet. This material is posted on the CNI News web site at www.cninews.com/CNI_FTDAlien.html.

In early October, 1996, CNI News editor Michael Lindemann interviewed John Mosgrove by phone, then interviewed newsman Carl Day and another dental technician, Bruce Phillips, who is also familiar with the mandible.

This is a summary of the information gathered from those interviews. Michael Lindemann's comments are in brackets. All other text is directly quoted from the interview subjects.

More at the link above.

All the best,

Isaac


[edit on 12-7-2010 by IsaacKoi]

reply to post by IsaacKoi


Thanks for that i must say after watching the video I am not convinced since he stated it was crushed and he put what he could back together.
Oh them links do not work mate sorry but again many thanks for that info.

Edit: Sorry link does work nice read as well thanks.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by k3rm1t]

Why would an "Alien" have a mandible anything like a humans, much less with the exact same number and types of teeth?

If you cast a human jaw in rubber, gelatin, or soft plastic it can be easily reshaped and recast while retaining the detail. Wouldn't take much to add the narrowing S shaped features, leaving you with an alien looking jaw with human teeth.

Originally posted by k3rm1t
i must say after watching the video I am not convinced since he stated it was crushed and he put what he could back together.

I'm not convinced either...

I was mainly interested in the fact there is some sort of link to Robert Collins.

Being a person of artistic talents and having come from thirty years of personal study in paleontology and animal anatomy, I find this video to be the most interesting piece of evidence I have ever seen for alien visitation. Everything about this mandible could be easily faked with a small amount of artistic talent and a knowledge of comparative anatomy. I don't know how much artistic talent the doctor has but it is sure that he knows anatomy. He could have easily faked this.

I noticed two discrepancies. The lady in the primate museum said that this animal was an omnivore. Humans are omnivores, we will eat plants, animals, insects and just about everything else. The tooth in the front of the jaw was not a cutting tooth so she would have known that this is the tooth of a herbivore.

IsaacKoi posted an article where Mosgrove states
"Person or "being" not a meat eater; teeth completely flat "

I find this interesting but I still do no except this as evidence that an alien crashed and the air force collected it's remains, I do find this to be the most compelling evidence that an alien did indeed crash and that the air force collected alien remains.

I would like to have a copy of the mandible that I could study myself.

S&F for posting an excellent video series.

I've been looking for more information on the John Mosgrove mandible but, oddly enough, I seem to find very little. I did find a diagram with an anatomical drawing of the mandible but the copy was too small to make out. Does anyone have any more information on this? I could use some help and a few links, thanks

Originally posted by k3rm1t
reply to post by Bob Down Under

 

Agree and the whole show was good just thought rather than post the alien video I have not seen anything on ATS about this.

You won't be able to find anything on ATS about it because the search function doesn't work.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by freelance_zenarchist


Thanks for the effort but I have already read that thread. I am surprised that there isn't more information on the internet about this mandible. I haven't even found any information attempting to debunk it. I don't like to jump to conclusions but it seems that people would rather simply forget about this than to try and convince the public either way.

This has really grabbed my attention, it's too bad that the audio in the videos cuts out at the end.

I found the mandible information very interesting. I had not come accross it before so it made watching the show worth it (as otherwise the show didnt seem to have a lot of new information - at least to me). The simularities to a human mandible definately seems the problematic part. If it were alien - perhaps they are relatives of humanity - distant creators/fugitives relative to earth humans. The other probabilities are that it is not alien but genetic engineering, or a genetic abnormality (disease). Of course there is the humans from the future or from an alternate dimension/brane idea as well. of course hoaxing is always possible - but why would a dentist of all people use the same number of teeth? surely they would add/subtract some in order to gain plausability for a straight "it might be an alien..." claim. Lack of imagination - possibly.

Also there is the disinformation angle. I think of this possibility as time capsule disinfo. Think about it - what better way to guarantee that this dentist is going to save the cast than to crush it in front of his face. So he gets scared and locks it away. years later, viola - perfect disinfo story with all related cast difficult to track down or verify.

Anyways - interesting all the same.

Originally posted by draknoir2
Why would an "Alien" have a mandible anything like a humans, much less with the exact same number and types of teeth?

If you cast a human jaw in rubber, gelatin, or soft plastic it can be easily reshaped and recast while retaining the detail. Wouldn't take much to add the narrowing S shaped features, leaving you with an alien looking jaw with human teeth.

Why wouldn't it? Perhaps the structure we take is common throughout the universe.

Or, perhaps it isn't the alien mandible that is like our own, but our own mandible which is like the alien's. Perhaps we are genetically related to the alien.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by angrysniper]

The lady in the film is a dental anthropologist with over 2,000 mandibles in her collection. I think that's pretty credible, and if she says that mandible was that of an omnivore, but not a primate, then I'm going to go with that. The teeth were gone, btw. I think the big round "tooth" on the mandible was a casting artifact. But the other thing she said that was compelling was that the mandible came from an animal about the size of a small dog.

So did the aliens bring their pets with them?

I watched the show when it was on and this was the one part that seemed pretty new to me. Not saying it hasn't been around because obviously it has from the links above, I guess I just haven't been searching that long.

My one thought before the show was over though was when they got to the end with the presumed alien. That mandible definitely looks like it would fit that " Puppets" jaw line. I really don't think that guy saw that particular video way back when.

I always have to wonder how many things we pass by because we have a hard time believing when it is right before us in its naked truth

The best info I have been able to find so far is here

Link

But the diagram, as I said, is too small. I would like to find a legible copy of it.

Originally posted by ChicUFO
I find this interesting but I still do no except this as evidence that an alien crashed and the air force collected it's remains, I do find this to be the most compelling evidence that an alien did indeed crash and that the air force collected alien remains.

You do?
Or you do no?
You completely lost me with that statement.

I found it interesting that Bailey, the lady in the 2nd video, commented it would not be expected for a creature that evolved on another world to have such striking similarities with creatures of this world, like exactly the same number of teeth as a human, for example. And she mentioned the tool marks showing it had been modified for some reason (possibly a fake?). Is it another example of our anthropocentric view of aliens, that they would be very similar to us but only a little bit different?

Originally posted by k3rm1t

Originally posted by Nephi1337
thanks for the posts ...but i dono why the sound went out twards the end on both vids ....anyway ty very much i enjoyed the vids reguardles

The videos are only about the mandible.

I don't understand what you mean by that, they are still talking about the mandible in the first video after the sound goes out, when they are pulling it out of a safe deposit box.